Need help for loads with a Lee 150 grain cast bullet in 30-06 cartridge.

[FhTiger74]

Hi from Norway!

I am a competitive shooter that thinks factory bullet cost way too mutch these days..

I cast all of my bullets in handguns, but are new to cast rifle bullets.

I want to cast a Lee 150 grain bullet with gas check for use in a Remington 700, 30-06 rifle.

Does anyone have a good load for this bullet/cartridge with Norma or Vihtavuori powder?
In Norma, i have 204 and 19 powder, and in Vihthavuori powder, i have N310, N320, N330 and N340.

I want as much speed i can get with cast bullets with gascheck. I`m shooting at a distance of 100 - 200 metres.

Today i load 57 grain of Norma 204 with a Nosler Custom Competition 155 grain HPBT bullet.

Sorry my english, but hope you understand

[Larry Gibson]

I want as much speed i can get with cast bullets with gascheck. I`m shooting at a distance of 100 - 200 metres.

If you want any kind of accuracy with a lubed GC'd cast bullet in your 30-06 with a probable 10" rifling twist the velocity will be maxed out at around 1940 fps, especially for the 200 M shooting. Obtaining reasonable accuracy at 50 Meters or even 100 Meters will not correlate to the same level of moa accuracy at 200 Meters. A quality cast PC'd bullet may get a bit higher velocity and maintain accuracy at 200 meters.

[405grain]

Larry's right about the velocity. A better approach for target shooting would to be using a heavier, higher ballistic coefficient bullet at around 1850 to 1900 fps. If you can get it in Norway I'd recommend something like the Lyman #311299. For doing load development try downloading GRT (Gordon's Reloading Tool). It's free, and there are a lot of videos on how to use it on youtube.

[P Flados]

A heavier bullet would probably be better, but if you want to run the 150s, the Quickload info below may help.

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .309, 150, LEE C309-150-F
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.000 inch = 76.20 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N310

CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms
-11.5   47    15.40   1831    1117   38156   3008    100.0    1.348
-10.3   47    15.60   1843    1132   38814   3044    100.0    1.337
-09.2   48    15.80   1855    1147   39476   3079    100.0    1.327
-08.0   49    16.00   1868    1162   40141   3115    100.0    1.317
-06.9   49    16.20   1880    1177   40811   3151    100.0    1.308
-05.7   50    16.40   1891    1192   41484   3186    100.0    1.298
-04.6   50    16.60   1903    1207   42162   3222    100.0    1.289
-03.4   51    16.80   1915    1222   42843   3258    100.0    1.279
-02.3   52    17.00   1927    1237   43529   3293    100.0    1.271
-01.1   52    17.20   1938    1252   44219   3328    100.0    1.262
+00.0   53    17.40   1950    1267   44913   3364    100.0    1.253
+01.1   53    17.60   1962    1282   45611   3399    100.0    1.245
+02.3   54    17.80   1973    1297   46314   3434    100.0    1.236
+03.4   55    18.00   1984    1312   47021   3469    100.0    1.228
+04.6   55    18.20   1996    1327   47732   3504    100.0    1.220
+05.7   56    18.40   2007    1342   48447   3539    100.0    1.212

[P Flados]

And

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .309, 150, LEE C309-150-F
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.000 inch = 76.20 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N330

CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms
-10.9   44    16.40   1841    1129   33350   3149    100.0    1.411
-09.8   45    16.60   1853    1143   33958   3184    100.0    1.400
-08.7   45    16.80   1864    1158   34569   3218    100.0    1.389
-07.6   46    17.00   1876    1172   35185   3253    100.0    1.378
-06.5   47    17.20   1888    1187   35806   3288    100.0    1.368
-05.4   47    17.40   1899    1201   36430   3322    100.0    1.358
-04.3   48    17.60   1911    1216   37059   3356    100.0    1.347
-03.3   48    17.80   1922    1231   37693   3391    100.0    1.337
-02.2   49    18.00   1934    1245   38331   3425    100.0    1.328
-01.1   49    18.20   1945    1260   38973   3459    100.0    1.318
+00.0   50    18.40   1956    1274   39620   3493    100.0    1.309
+01.1   50    18.60   1967    1289   40271   3527    100.0    1.299
+02.2   51    18.80   1979    1304   40927   3561    100.0    1.290
+03.3   51    19.00   1990    1318   41587   3595    100.0    1.281
+04.3   52    19.20   2001    1333   42253   3629    100.0    1.273
+05.4   53    19.40   2012    1348   42922   3662    100.0    1.264

[Martin Luber]

What software was used to make the above calculations?

Thanks

[P Flados]

What software was used to make the above calculations?

Thanks

Quickload

[Shopdog]

Guy walks into the shop asking how to install a piece of crown..... tossing him the key to the Weinig 5 head moulding machine probably,isn't that great of an idea. A lesson I recently learned,the hard way. Fellow wanted to know how to get a .45 cal sumthin or other cast rifle rig in the "winners circle".... I gave'm about 90% of the data(the Weinig). Come to find out,he didn't know what a bore rider was?

So,yes... you can get the Lee 150 into the fast lane but,you'll be miles ahead in your quest to stick with low velocity,easy button posts above.

Good luck with your project.

[braddock]

Lyman's 4th edition of cast bullets is helpful, they list one Viht powder, N105 a mag pistol powder, start at 19.5 grns do not exceed 27 grns velocity 1880 to 2302 fps pressures are very high for cast bullets, if you can get Reloder 7 there's another 200 fps in it for you at much less (approx 75% of) pressure start at 28 grns for 1953fps, DNE 36.5 grns for 2508 fps. Needless to say you'll need very hard alloy unless you're happier at around 2000 fps with both the powders mentioned.
Lowest pressure of all is IMR 3031 but it's not REACH compliant so unless someone has a pile stored away and willing to sell/trade it off you're buggered.
The old stand-by 18 grains of 2400 is a great and accurate load, around 1650 fps and slowly work your way up, as with all pistol powder great care is needed as the pressures suddenly take off like a rocket, but 18 grns gives around 21000 psi gentle on bullets, barrels, cases and shoulders.
HTH.
BTW don't trust your life or your rifle on what I, or any internet self proclaimed expert posts.

[braddock]

Might be worth reading this thread https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...Rifles-Article, I found it useful.