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    Testing A New Bullet Design

    Friday was opening day for Ohio squirrel , Morning dove and some other stuff
    OH YEA I have to go and get a MRI and a CT Scan

    So this morning was opening day of Teal and Early Goose season
    I took my lab as he "HAD" to fetch all the birds


    A little after noon I decided to test a new bullet mold I had cut
    I had posted about a wad cutter or close bullet for the 22 Hornet

    I cut a 1 cavity mold for powder coating
    No grease grove
    A single crimp grove exactly in the center
    Both ends are the same , a standard gas check shank

    I casted about 100 bullets out of range lead
    IMO Most of this lead is from people shooting store bought "Hard Cast" bullets
    I find this lead is slightly harder than wheel weights

    The bullets were 44 gr after the GC was installed

    Hornady 22 cal GC
    John Deere Green powder coat , sized to .225 after powder coating
    The powder coating almost filled the crimp grove , I didn't crimp the bullets as I loaded them
    Winchester 22 Hornet cases , neck sized only , slightly flared with a Lyman M Die
    2400 powder
    CCI Small Rifle primers

    1450 FPS out of my Browning 22 Hornet rifle , Leupold 3x9x40 scope
    This load shoots about 1" at 50yards
    Just under 2" at 100 yards

    6 "Test" Fox squirrels were picked out in a large White Oak at the edge of my dad's woods
    A total of 6 "Test" rounds were used
    All 6 "Test" rounds looked like they produced round holes in the heads of the 6 "Test" squirrels

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    And I carry a LOADED Hell Cat

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    Time to "test" how they taste. How are ya gonna cook'em? -06

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    Fox squirrel are a good way to warm up skillet. Lots of onions and some Jalipino.
    "Come unto Me, all you who labor and are heavy burdened, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28
    Male Guanaco out in dry lakebed at 10,800 feet south of Arequipa.

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    I cooked 1 Friday evening , 1/4'ered it and cut off the ribs
    The other 5 were also 1/4ered , but put in vacuum bags and frozen
    Browned in a cast iron Dutch oven
    I added a large amount of onions , Jalapeno , red & yellow bell peppers , Garlic , carrots and celery
    With some beef stock to the Dutch oven
    Slow cooked it in the Dutch oven for almost 2 hours total as I had some other stuff I had to do before eating
    I added brown rice and let the rice cook till done

    The squirrel meat fell off the bones

    I love to eat squirrel
    But it is 88 degrees today , so I plan on waiting till it cools off before I harvest more
    I didn't go Teal or Goose hunting today either today
    As IMO hunting is just not fun when I am sweating and swatting Skeeters

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    And I carry a LOADED Hell Cat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnch View Post
    ...As IMO hunting is just not fun when I am sweating and swatting Skeeters

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    John, Many things are not fun when you are sweating an swatting.

    It sure sounds like you have a decent hunting boolit for most any .22 center fire. Pretty much duplicates the .22 WRF ballistics, which is not a bad place to be for small game.

    I prefer my squirrels fried, probably why I try to shoot young ones.

    Robert

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    I'm impressed & educated. I didn't think that the wad cutter design would be that accurate at that distance. Good Show! -06

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    One certainly doesn't need an HP when the whole front end is a massive flat nose. These experiments keep the enjoyment alive, don't they? And they vary the diet, as well.

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    Outstanding love the story and the idea of making them your own. Delicious food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by versa-06 View Post
    I'm impressed & educated. I didn't think that the wad cutter design would be that accurate at that distance. Good Show! -06

    The fact that the 100 yards and less groups are that good
    Is from the rifle
    Jacketed reloads shoot 3/4" groups at 100 yards


    I also tried 200 yards with the cast Sort of Wad Cutter cast bullet
    Shot 2 groups
    The first was 12" and the other was 14"+

    Another thing I have learned

    Not sure why , need to test more
    I got 1 a flier at 100 yards in a second batch of 10 test , 3 shot groups

    As I didn't weigh any of these bullets
    I am guessing a void

    John
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    That rifle sounds like a Good'n. -06

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    Thank you for the informative write up with hard info.

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    John, would the boolit be large enough in diameter to try shooting it using a tumble lube like Ben’s Liquid Lube? It’s an interesting design and like the original Bator .224; has a large meplat for transferring kinetic energy to a target. I noticed the Bator was much more effective on p. dogs compared to Lee’s copy of the RCBS design when I tried them in the .222 REM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmitty View Post
    John, would the boolit be large enough in diameter to try shooting it using a tumble lube like Ben’s Liquid Lube? It’s an interesting design and like the original Bator .224; has a large meplat for transferring kinetic energy to a target. I noticed the Bator was much more effective on p. dogs compared to Lee’s copy of the RCBS design when I tried them in the .222 REM.
    Yes
    The powder coating is the same basic idea as Ben’s Liquid Lube or LEE Liquid Lube
    I use Powder coating as I have it and it works

    John
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    And I carry a LOADED Hell Cat

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    I've pushed grooveless and lubed with 2 coats BLL to 1400 fps in 300 BO, no leading, no GC. Should work OK.
    Whatever!

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