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Thread: 20 gauge round ball

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    Boolit Master John in WI's Avatar
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    I bought a .575 RB mold from Lee--the ball seriously bulges my unslit BPI wad that I hoped to use. So, I bought some Hornady .570 balls, and they still appear to be too big.
    I haven't messed around much with it. From the reading I did on Cast Boolits, the claims were you should be able to push the ball/wad through the barrel. It should be tight, but you shouldn't need to pound it through.

    I have .575 and .570 balls, and a bag of unslit BPI wads, if you'd like to mess with it. The balls come in at almost exactly 5/8oz, and I was able to find some 5/8oz reloading data (I want to say, using Unique). I thought they would be some good close range HD rounds. I mean, it's a .58 cal round ball and that has centuries of real world data. I'm just not sure how tight is too tight?

    I tend to think if the round ball can roll down the barrel without friction, you should be able to swage the plastic wad to fit without creating undue pressure. The unslit wads have worked perfectly for my 20ga "socket slugs". I actually sent those for pressure testing, and they come in within SAAMI.

    I you want to pursue this, please keep in touch. It's a project I was messing with, but it got shelved when i started working with the "socket slugs". Even those, I've not tested beyond about 20 yards. In the unslit wads, the wad stays on the slug acting like a kind of drag tail. It's a cool idea, but I also couldn't find a lot of good 20ga data for the round balls. Anyway, I have several hundred .570 and .575 balls and a bag of wads if you'd like to try it.
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    John, in my experimentation I've found that nothing good happened until the payload was about 0.010" over bore diameter. Once I tried that, the magic happened, 5 shots at 50 yards:
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    Ultimately, the plastic wad is the answer, as I found with my Mossy, I'm pretty happy with that load. BT is correct, the equator of a RB allows only a tiny contact area with the bore. Perhaps if you used some tumble lube on them it would work out pretty well!
    I found that if I lubricated the barrel of the deerslayer it didn't lead up with foster slugs. I think I used bar and chain oil, but I think just about anything would work. Yes, plastic wad is the answer.

    John and Centershot thank you so much for the offers.

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    Here is a picture of a 58 caliber hornady swaged round ball inside a federal 20S1.

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    The ID of the mod choke in my shotgun is .603. So this should have about .013" of compression. The base of the wad varies from .613 to .621. So I think this should work. Maybe a IC choke would be better? Too bad that that choke is stuck in that barrel and ain't coming out. At least with my little chokewrench.

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    I have .575 and .570 balls, and a bag of unslit BPI wads, if you'd like to mess with it. The balls come in at almost exactly 5/8oz, and I was able to find some 5/8oz reloading data (I want to say, using Unique).
    Hey if you could dig up that data that would be great. I was going to go with 17 grains of unique as that is what is called for with 20S1 and federal hulls with 7/8 OZ. Figured with a lighter load it will go faster and definitely be safe.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check