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    Quote Originally Posted by murf205 View Post
    I used Singer sewing machine oil for years but Ballistol has replaced it as my #1 gun lubricant. It is great on leather too!
    Hopefully that is the new version, not the stuff in the green cans FWIW, the 'new' sewing machine oil is simply mineral oil. I use it when repairing and maintaining sewing machines. It even works to loosen up the varnish left from old oils.

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    10/4 on Ballistol. Synthetic 0/20 weight motor oil and Marvel Mystery Oil are very useful as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie b View Post
    Hopefully that is the new version, not the stuff in the green cans FWIW, the 'new' sewing machine oil is simply mineral oil. I use it when repairing and maintaining sewing machines. It even works to loosen up the varnish left from old oils.
    It is indeed the green can stuff. Since the sewing machine was mineral oil, that must be why it had no odor. What ever it was, it's good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murf205 View Post
    I used Singer sewing machine oil for years but Ballistol has replaced it as my #1 gun lubricant. It is great on leather too!
    I picked up a sample of Ballistol (from my locksmith, of all places) and used it on my inline muzzle loader. I was amazed at how well it took off the burned on carbon. Since then I have used it for cleaning all my guns, with good results. Still use Hoppe's #9 for the bore, though.

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    In my opinion you can take that WD-40 and stick it where the sun don't shine.

    ATF, Dextron II or III works good, wipes almost dry, and leaves a lubricating layer that won't dry out and gum up like WD-40 does.
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    WD will also clean up the bluing on nickle steel barrels and take them back to white in a surprisingly short period of time when hunting water fowl ....... I'd rather go into it .

    The assorted dry lubes also don't work well in the rain and snow below 10° ..... It's a fowl hobby but you loves it or you don't.
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    I like WD-40 and have a lot of uses for it, but I don't use it for a lubricant.

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    I was working in the paint shop at Mercedes Benz when a man came walking through with a can of WD-40 in his hand. In about 2 seconds, 2 of the paint shop Mercedes guys grabbed him and took the can away from him and carried it and him outside the building, they were afraid he had WD residue on his clothing. When I asked what that was all about, the paint shop supervisor said that ANY amount of that stuff in the air that settled on a car body would cause the paint to not adhere to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by porthos View Post
    like many; i don't like wd-40. so, after some of the above comments; i decided to do a test. i sprayed a quantity in the bottom of a aluminum can. i marked the date and will at some point (??) post results
    did a tesr awhile back, but i used a glass plate because unlike metal it has no porosity at all - after 9 months absolutely no gumming residue could be found -
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    WD-40 won't touch bluing on guns, but acid rain will. My Dad hunted ducks for decades with a fine Parker that he could ill afford. He waxed everything to keep rain off the metal. The gun was still near-mint when he finally passed on. I chose to let my brother have it, because at the time my life did not include duck-hunting, and the sod up and sold it.
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    WD40 seems like 95% MS (or ingredients similar to MS) and 5% waxy mineral oil.

    I emptied the contents of a spraycan that lost it's pressure, into a Jar, sealed it.
    A white milky substance separates from the clearish (yellow) liquid.
    After I witnessed that, I Always shake a WD40 can before spraying.

    I've coated a metal item with WD40 and some puddled in one area, a week or so later after it dried, that puddled area had a residue that felt waxy.

    It's a great cleaner, cuz it's basically MS, which is a great cleaner.
    It's leaves a waxy residue, which should displace water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonB_in_Glencoe View Post
    WD40 seems like 95% MS (or ingredients similar to MS) and 5% waxy mineral oil.

    I emptied the contents of a spraycan that lost it's pressure, into a Jar, sealed it.
    A white milky substance separates from the clearish (yellow) liquid.
    After I witnessed that, I Always shake a WD40 can before spraying.

    I've coated a metal item with WD40 and some puddled in one area, a week or so later after it dried, that puddled area had a residue that felt waxy.

    It's a great cleaner, cuz it's basically MS, which is a great cleaner.
    It's leaves a waxy residue, which should displace water.

    That's my 2˘ on WD40
    Jon you're right about that white milky stuff, noticed that myself.

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    Pull up the MSDS. Don't have time now.
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    They don’t even allow synthetic gun oil in my county. I like it but not biodegradable, or toxic to the land. I like clp and rem oil for the protection of my guns. Good for the wood. Nice clean protective coating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schutzen-jager View Post
    jmho - the WD40 does not turn to gum - the gum is the residual left when loosened by it + not properly flushed out or blown out with air pressure -
    WD-40 is a light oil, and Stoddard Solvent, unless they've changed the formula again recently. When the Stoddard Solvent evaporates, it leaves the oil there. And eventually, even if that is the only thing left on the object, it will gum up. The stuff is great for short term use, and pretty good if you re-apply it frequently. If you need to put something down today and work on it again in a couple of days, it's fine. If it's going to be a couple of years, you may want to clean the WD-40 off and re-coat it with something else, though if you don't wait too long, just respraying it will work. I've used the stuff from coast to coast, and all over the interior Southern states, and several foreign countries. I had a plastic bin of old files I tried the acid resharpening process on. Muriatic acid for the sharpening. Washed them off in tap water, soaked for a bit in bicarbonate water, and then rinsed in tap water again, and filled the bin with WD-40. Every month or so, for more than two years, I'd spray some more WD-40 in there. When I need one of those files, I pull it out, spray it down again, and wipe it off with a paper towel or shop rag. A couple of the files that got taken out of that bin while I was getting another file got set aside, and they have rusted lightly again.

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    he gum is the residual [ oil ] left when loosened by it + not properly flushed out or blown out with air pressure -

    https://files.wd40.com/pdf/sds/mup/w...sds-us-ghs.pdf
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    RemOil is another oil that will not go Gummy on you .
    The light oil carrier , will in time dissipate , but ...it leaves behind a micro-thin film of dry-lube ( Teflon based) that stops rust and keeps things slick .
    I like it ... try some if you have never used it .
    All I use inside the lockworks and triggers of guns .

    I have had Breakfree CLP go gummy so badly on a few of my guns that the guns wouldn't fire (Swiss rifle and S&W revolvers) I will never use it for guns stored away ...the stuff got so hard and gummy I had to scrub the residue out with brush and solvents ... Never Again !
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    CONTENTS: Ed's Red Bore Cleaner
    1 part Dexron ATF, GM Spec. D-20265 or later.
    1 part Kerosene - deodorized, K1 (Lamp oil)
    1 part Aliphatic Mineral Spirits (Stoddard Solvent, or "Varsol")
    1 part Acetone, CAS #67-64-1.
    (Optional 1 lb. of Lanolin, Anhydrous, USP per gallon, or OK to substitute Lanolin, Modified, Topical Lubricant, from the drug store)

    This will do everything you will ever need around guns except dissolve copper. The acetone can be omitted, but it won't dissolve smokeless powder fouling as quickly.

    Will never "gum up" in a gun. With the lanolin added, it will rustproof steel for up to two years. Far better lubricity than WD-40. Dissolves Cosmoline pretty well.

    Store only in tightly capped metal or glass, as the acetone will evaporate right through plastics, even if it does not dissolve them. I use the glass jars that Smuckers Natural Peanut Butter comes in for bulk storage, and a cleaned-out glass Kikkoman Soy Sauce bottle as dispenser. (The plastic cap holds up well.)
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    been using Ed's red for decades with no problems - it will not displace moisture like WD40 does - if you use the acetone formula do not let it touch wood finishes or plastic - it will also kill ant + termite colonies quickly -
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    A few years ago someone linked a long-term test of all the popular oils and Ballistol was one of the top performers.
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