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    Muzzle loader over powder wads

    Any one making black powder over powder wads? If so what diameter do you make them. I have been looking at the Pedersoli 20 gauge double barrel flint lock. One barrel is .60 and the other is .625
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    I ordered the wads for over powder , and overshot wads from Ballistic Products and Track of the Wolf for my .75 cal blunderbuss.

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    I just use a 5/8" punch I got off of flea-bay and punch out milk cartons.
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    + 1 on the .625 punch. Do a search for a 58" arch punch - Osborn is a long time maker of arch punches and there are other brands as well.

    Another place to look is Track Of The Wolf - I believe they have some charts giving diameters, etc, for their wads/cards - which I believe are Circle Fly wards/cards - or check with Circle Fly themselves.

    I have a 20 gauge flintlock Fusil-De-Chasse that is a .620 bore. I've used wads from Circle Fly for shot loads. With a patched round ball, it shoots better if I use an over the powder card under the patched ball - I've used my 5/8" Osborn arch punch (I have a wide variety of sizes for use in my leatherwork). I have punched them out of thick cardboard as well as from scrap leather that is around 1/8" - for the leather "cards" - I melt some of my BP lube, dip them and pat dry with paper towels - they work just fine. I do the same for my 36 and 44 cap and ball revolvers for over the powder wads - the leather works just fine and utilizes the scrap pieces of leather I have.

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    I frequently use shotgun fiber wads. They flake into several over-powder wad sized wads per piece. They seem to be made with some type of wax or lube within the fibers material and then pressed into shape. Works good.

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    I use a #11 Osbourne punch for my 20 bore cards.
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    Why doesn't anyone just use regular shotgun wads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie b View Post
    Why doesn't anyone just use regular shotgun wads?
    I don't like loading them because they drag down the bore and do NOT give me any performance/pattern benefits over regular overpowder and overshot wads.
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    I use the fiberwads as well. I just pick the thickness I want and peel them part. Works very well for me.

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    I use the cork gasket material, for automotive, pick whatever thickness needed, 1/16" to 1/2" and hand punch to cut out. I put a paper card cut wad over the powder first then the cork wad. Cheap punches from track of the wolf, harbor freight, order on line the diameter needed????

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    Thanks for the info. I was thinking 5/8ths would work but wanted real life experience advice.
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