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Thread: Published data for 45 colt rifle, h110, w296, cast 240-260 gr???

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    Published data for 45 colt rifle, h110, w296, cast 240-260 gr???

    Can anyone point me to data as requested above. I have multiple manuals-no luck. Same with online manuals.

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    Loaddata.com or handloader magazines maybe the only place to find the data.

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    This is from Linebaughs loads. I use this data in my Ruger NM Blackhawk and my Henry Steel .45 Colt. This is copy/paste so there are no typeOs
    BULLET POWDER GRAINS VELOCITY CUP
    260 GR. LEAD SWC H-110 27 1459 FPS 30,600
    260 GR. LEAD SWC H-4227 26 1377 FPS 30,600
    260 GR. LEAD SWC # 2400 20.5 1294 FPS 29,800
    260 GR. LEAD SWC HS-6 16 1259 FPS 30,800
    260 GR. LEAD SWC UNIQUE 12 1199 FPS 30,000
    310 GR LEAD SWC H-l10 23 1330 FPS 30,000
    310 GR LEAD SWC H-4227 23 1176 FPS 29,400
    310 GR LEAD SWC # 2400 19 1172 FPS 29,400
    310 GR LEAD SWC HS-6 14 1119 FPS 30,400
    310 GR LEAD SWC UNIQUE 11 998 FPS 29,200

    STARTING LOADS MAXIMUM LOADS
    BULLET POWDER GRS VEL CUP POWDER GRS VEL CUP
    225 JHP H-110 28 1400 H-110 30 1500 28,000
    225 JHP H 4227 26 1310 23500 H4227 28 1426 28800
    225 JHP HS 6 15 1244 24400 HS 6 17 1309 28200
    225 JHP UNIQUE 11.5 1170 24400 UNIQUE 12.5 1301 29,400

    Starting Loads Maximum Loads
    Bullet Powder Grs. Vel. CUP Powder Grs. Vel. CUP
    260 cast H-110 25.5 1364 24,800 H-110 27 1459 30,600
    260 cast H 4227 24 1180 24.800 H 4227 25.5 1340 30,000
    260 cast #2400 19 1165 24,800 #2400 20.5 1294 29,800
    260 cast HS-6 14 1130 25.000 HS-6 15 1225 30,000
    260 cast Unique 10.5 1050 24,800 Unique 12 1199 30,000
    ^This also works for Hornadys 250gr. XTP^
    Starting Loads Maximum Loads
    Bullet Powder Grs. Vel. CUP Powder Grs. Vel. CUP
    310 cast H-110 21.5 1109 24,400 H-110 23.5 1316 32,000
    310 cast H 4227 21 1016 24.900 H 4227 22.5 1164 30,000
    310 cast #2400 17 1013 24.400 #2400 19 1172 29,400
    310 cast HS-6 12.5 994 25.000 HS-6 13.5 1043 29,800



    Linebaughs Personal loads
    Powder

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    WW 231 8 gr. 260 cast 900 fps defense/plinker/big game
    HS 6 13 gr 260 cast 1050 fps big game
    HS 6 13 gr 310/320 cast 1000 fps big game
    H-110 24 260 cast 1280 fps big game
    H-110 24 310/320 cast 1250 fps big game/ dangerous game

    Powder Gr. Bullet Velocity Use
    WW 231 8 gr. 260 cast 900 fps defense/plinker/big game
    HS 6 13 gr 260 cast 1050 fps big game
    HS 6 13 gr 310/320 cast 1000 fps big game
    H-110 24 260 cast 1280 fps big game
    H-110 24 310/320 cast 1250 fps big game/ dangerous game

    • Paco Kellys Lever Guns

    • 260 Keith 20/2400 30,000 CUP for 1770 fps
    • 260 Keith 22/2400 32,600 CUP for 1870 fps

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    I'm not sure I understand the difficulty with using published data for J-word bullets, and merely substituting cast projectiles of the same weight. One must still do a work-up, but the results should be satisfactory.
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    I’ve never had luck with H110 and any cast bullet. Consistently, my most accurate loads have been with either of the 4227’s.

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    [QUOTE=Seeker;5558233]This is from Linebaughs loads. I use this data in my Ruger NM Blackhawk and my Henry Steel .45 Colt. This is copy/paste so there are no typeOs

    310 cast H-110 21.5 1109 24,400 H-110 23.5 1316 32,000



    Linebaughs Personal loads

    H-110 24 310/320 cast 1250 fps big game/ dangerous game. << I would seriously not use this load data under any circumstances as the COA is not given so you cannot be sure that this isn't a DANGEROUS LOAD without the facts. John Linebaugh may consider this a safe load in HIS 5 shot conversions, but for the rest of us shooting store bought Rugers, I wouldn't go there. Again, this is just data, without any facts as to the COA or the gun they were loaded for. Much respect to Mr. Linebaugh, may he Rest In Peace.

    If 21.5gr develops 32,000cup I would NOT exceed this load in any Ruger single action revolver.

    BTW, I have great luck with H110/W296 and cast boolits.

    Exactly what model rifle in 45 Colt?
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    I played with different loads a little in a 20" Rossi and settled on 20 grains 4227 with 265-275 grain 454640 getting 1200fps. plenty good for anything I want to do. very accurate and fast enough for 45 colt. if I want to shoot faster I'll go to the 44mag or 444

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    The rifle is a Henry steel. I have other powders but I've got 8 lbs of W296 that has been taking up space for about 40 years and I'd like to use some of that. I have not extrapolated from J-bullet data because of 296's reputation for needing to fill the case. I'm pretty sure a 260 gr J projectile is going leave less case capacity for powder than will a 260 gr cast bullet. Not inevitably but I'm thinking a lead bullet of the same diameter and weight as a J bullet is going to be shorter than the J bullet. Yes, No, Not enough difference to matter? Anyway, that's why I'm looking for published data. it seems odd that so little exist for this combination.

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    autogun, message me with your email address. 25 years ago I wrote Hodgdon asking about a 255 gr cast bullet. I have their response stapled in a book. Unfortunately, I can’t post a pic here with my phone but will send a pic of what they provided me

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    Thanks to everyone for the information, especially for the load data provided.

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