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Right, but I wasn't talking about the shingles vax, it's like all the sudden the virus became some unbearable problem only after the vax became available. I remember people saying that adult infection of chickenpox for the first time was a nightmare. But nothing ever about shingles for those who have been exposed.
These men and their hypnotized followers call this a new order. It is not new. It is not order.
Maybe Scientists should make up a new blood type for everyone who is adding artificial antigens to theirs.
These men and their hypnotized followers call this a new order. It is not new. It is not order.
Seems like things become a medical crisis once someone makes a $$$ vaccine or $$$$ pill for something.
Chance of shingles is 33%...
Chance of me having a reaction to the vax that puts me in the hospital is around 90%...
I will roll the dice on getting shingles...
Oh, no doubt that any manufacturer will do its best to promote its own products, often to the point of exaggeration. That’s pretty much expected. The informed consumer is best served by finding independent and hopefully less biased sources of information.
The generally accepted understanding of varicella is that, before the vaccine, it would quickly be spread by kids throughout a non immune population, making kids miserable and adults potentially much more ill, leaving immunity behind in just about everybody that is highly protective against future exposure, and which is boosted/maintained by those same exposures (sort of like maintaining a large well trained army because a hostile neighbor tried to invade once and still keeps testing the defense by raiding over the border). Seniors can get nasty first time infections, or, if previously infected, get zoster, as their immune systems weaken with age.
With the chicken pox vaccine, you can prevent the kids’ misery and missed school (which is a significant issue), the potentially serious adult illness, and, with the shingles shot (in some ways almost the same thing as the chicken pox version), the previously unpreventable nastiness of shingles.
Ironically, using the vaccine has led to becoming dependent on it. Without the periodic boosting from exposure to natural varicella circulating among the uninfected, the vaccine induced immunity in kids, never as strong as the natural form to start with, weakens after a few years, making them vulnerable as young adults (“Let’s reduce our big army since our still hostile neighbor hasn’t crossed the border in twenty years”), so now boosters are needed.
I got chicken pox as a kid (unusually, twice). I know how nasty shingles can be so I got the shots. Yeah, big pharma has an agenda - promoting your product to make money is expected in capitalism. That doesn’t mean there aren’t real problems those products address effectively.
Last edited by kevin c; 03-28-2023 at 03:25 PM.
Ah, I see.
So my sister got a nasty bout of shingles in the early 90 and ended up with what is, effectively, permanent nerve damage. So it happened before the vax, and it was still bad.
It's talked about more now because I think people realize better that it can have long-lasting repercussions. And people talk about this type of stuff more now, for whatever reason. And also, obviously, drug companies do marketing...
I am sure that this herpes vaccine is perfectly safe. But I have heard this before.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bo...ed-or-disabled
These men and their hypnotized followers call this a new order. It is not new. It is not order.
When I was a kid and when my children were young (oldest is in his mid 40's) the chickenpox vaccine was taking the kids to play with the neighbor kid who had chickenpox. None of my five kids had the chickenpox more than once, although I do know some people who have had it more than once.
As stated before, I still experience very mild discomfort (minor itching) at the site where my bout with shingles started.
If you pay attention to some of the early TV shows and movies, you will occasionally here them complaining about shingles.
A vote for anyone other then the conservative candidates is a vote for the liberal candidates.
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