Modern carbine in .30 Carbine?

[Uncle Grinch]

Nice conversation here on the 30 Carbine. All said, is there any suitable candidate to re-introduce this cartridge. In other words, what action is the best candidate to rebarrel or modify?

[Outpost75]

Nice conversation here on the 30 Carbine. All said, is there any suitable candidate to re-introduce this cartridge. In other words, what action is the best candidate to rebarrel or modify?

This is what John Taylor did for me. Barrel to fit small frame H&R Garden Gun. M1carbine rear sight. M14 front sight. Picatinny rail. Extracts and ejects either .32-20 or .30 Carbine with 20-inch barrel.

[barnetmill]

You probably saw a Ruger Deerfield carbine (middle). It was a successor for their earlier .44 Magnum carbine (bottom), and was based on the Mini 14.
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it had a detachable magazine and pump action: about the mid 1960's were are talking about. It was built on an M1 carbine action.
I have owned an M1 carbine since 1963 and I can certainly identify the M1 carbine action when I see it. I know the difference between a bolt gun and pump action gun. I know the difference between a fixed tube fed semiauto carbine and one with a removable stick type magazine and none of guns in your photo are what I saw.

If you did some research of about 2 minutes you could find this.


Universal Firearms Model Vulcan 440
Caliber: .44 Magnum & .44 Special
Barrel Length: 18 1/4 inches
Rifling: 6 lands & grooves
Overall Length: 36 7/8 inches
Weight: 6 lbs
Stock: Walnut
Sight Options:

Front: Williams Guide series, sporting ramp with gold bead
Rear: Williams Guide series, adjustable for windage and elevation
Scope & Scope Mount

Note: some Vulcans have no fixed sights, some Vulcans are not drilled and tapped for a scope mount
Magazine: 5 shot, Lexan

[bowfin]

With the 7.62x39 and the pistol calibers really no need for the 30 Carbine.

One can also turn that around. If one had a .30 carbine, why would they need a 7.62x39 or the pistol calibers?

[Shawlerbrook]

With the pistol caliber carbines you have the option of a handgun/carbine combination that uses the same ammo .

[deltaenterprizes]

I always thought an M1 carbine in 45 ACP would be pretty cool, using stick mags similar to a grease gun. Marlin had their Camp carbine, which was close but not the same.

Long ago when Carbines were being imported and they were cheap, there was a company that made 45 Win mag conversions!

[GregLaROCHE]

I’m sure that I once watched a video of .30 cal carbine hand gun. I don’t think much of the powder had a chance to burn in that short of a barrel.

[Jim22]

I once had a WWII M1 Carbine. Foolishly I sold it. But I'll say this: The M1 Carbine is more powerful than a Ruger or Henry PCC and it's lighter and handier as well. The Ruger PCC especially is just too heavy.

I have wanted another M! Carbine to convert to .357 mahnum rimless. Brass is the same length.

Jim

[Bmi48219]

I’m sure that I once watched a video of .30 cal carbine hand gun. I don’t think much of the powder had a chance to burn in that short of a barrel.

My .30 caliber carbine pistol has a 7.5” barrel. Will full power (14.7 grains 4227 under a 110 gr FMJ) it does have significant muzzle flash, but the chronograph shows 1780 to 1820 fps, so roughly 100 fps less than military specs.
At 14.2 grs the muzzle flash is insignificant. With this load I’m seeing 1675 to 1730 fps.
Both the pistol and M1 carbine function as intended with powder charges of 13.7 grs up to the 14.7gr max. I feed them both 14.1 - 14.2 grs to reduce wear and tear.