After just watching a video on the new "Henry Homesteader", I had the idea of "Why don't these manufacturers make carbines in .30 Carbine?"
Ballistically, I think it is better than a 10mm.
Maybe it is too powerful for a blowback design?
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After just watching a video on the new "Henry Homesteader", I had the idea of "Why don't these manufacturers make carbines in .30 Carbine?"
Ballistically, I think it is better than a 10mm.
Maybe it is too powerful for a blowback design?
It sure would be nice if they did.
Perhaps carbine ammo would become more affordable and available.
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A few modern manufacturers make .30 Carbines today - but they're patterned after the WWII US .30 Carbine.
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I didn't want to pay the price for an original WWII one, just wanted a nice little carbine, and that it is.
This isn't a knock on the Henry homesteader, but its a rather pricey rifle. For about the same cost you can get a nice M1 carbine, which I doubt can be improved on. They are great little rifles, and not that hard to find. Just on the expensive side. I've even heard rumors Palmetto State Armory is going to use the H&R name for replica rifles, including an M1 carbine. I doubt it will be cheap.
Now a cheap rifle, even a Hipoint I could see. I'm not a big Hipoint fan, but I'd give one of their rifles in 30 carbine a go.
Last edited by megasupermagnum; 03-09-2023 at 09:03 PM.
Everything seems to be AR platform stuff for carbines. It would be neat to see a wood stock semiauto carbine... affordable. Chambered in 30 carbine would be cool, but pricey. Maybe 300 blackout? Makes me reminiscent of Ruger Mini 14/30. Hmmm, never heard of anyone re-chambering a mini...
A company did purchase the Inland name and has been making new 30 carbines in the GI style, but they also have one in a newer style:
https://www.inland-mfg.com/Inland-Carbines/M30-C.html
It's expensive for sure.
I can see piles of steel and aluminum 30 carbine cases being left at the range. The horror! The horror!
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Ruger did offer the Mini 14 in .300 Blackout, didn’t they? Or do they?
More gusto than the .30 carbine; but the Mini isn’t quite as cool as the M1 Carbine.
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Maybe it because of a very limited market demand. The 30 Carbine as had 83 years to gain market share. It has not.
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It would be fun in a pump action rifle that uses carbine magazines . Plus if it had better stock fit to me , but it ain't gonna happen .
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One of my favorite woods loafing guns is a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine which was shortened to 5-1/2". It shoots well with .32-20 also. I had John Taylor make a .30 carbine barrel for my H&R .44/.410 Garden Gun and he cut a Rim seat in the barrel so I can use either .30 carbine or .32-20s in it also. The pair are a perfect combo.
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Put it this way, 30 carbine is pretty comparable to 357 magnum. How often do you see a 357 magnum blowback, carbine or pistol?
A couple companies tried 30 carbine blowback pistols. Kimball for one. I’d love to have one just for the novelty of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLWu8-gFWwI
The new Inland M-30 (see post #8) makes about as much sense to me as a lever action 9mm. For that price you can get a fine 30 carbine and a Utilmax replacement barrel shroud with a rail for your choice of optics.
I’ve often wondered what it would take to convert an AR to 30 carbine.
https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-...rifle/p/p42072
And much preferred to a blow back design.
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A new bolt head for the bolt carrier group (30 carbine is smaller diameter than a .223Rem case .360" vs. .378")) along with a new 30 caliber barrel to be chambered and a gas port drilled at the pistol length gas tube length to ensure it reliably cycles. the standard AR15 magazines should work for the double stack or you could slip M1 carbine magazines inside them and make sleeved frankenmags for more reliable feeding.
OR just buy a 300BLK chambered AR and reload the cases to match 30 Carbine ballistics.
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I've never seen a 30 carbine aluminum case. Any idea who is making them?
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An AR or AK will have more reach at generally equivalent weight.
A pistol-caliber carbine can eat what your pistol does - often out of the same mags.
The .30 Carbine is unfortunately the wrong kind of "in between" for marketability.
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With the 7.62x39 and the pistol calibers really no need for the 30 Carbine.
I never really saw much use for the 300 blackout,, as the subsonic slow and weak use has zero interest for me. But changing my outlook of the cartridge to a modernized, vastly improved version of a very old favorite, the 30 m1 carbine, opened a whole new world of enjoyment and what grew into being a new favorite...
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