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    Quote Originally Posted by mpkunz607 View Post
    In defense of Accurate, and I would not know them from Adam & Eve, in all likelihood the reason that his stock bullet designs all have the same meplat is probably because he has only a handful of cherry designs, or maybe even just one, to make all of his bullet profiles. LEE at one time did "custom" molds but even their so-called custom work was clearly from LEE as most bullets had similar geometries.

    So I just looked at the Accurate page of bullet profiles and I can tell you that actually appears to be the case. The different calibers and weights come from the magic of adjusting the gcode to get what you want in the cut. Which means its very likely that they have made a business decision to stick with that cherry geometry because adding others or changing the existing design would affect other aspects of their business model. Just a guess.
    If I'm not mistaken I believe that Accurate lathe cuts his moulds. We asked him one time why he didn't do a smaller meplat or even a more pointed bullet and he reply was because of tool bit chatter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepyj View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TD1886 View Post
    If I'm not mistaken I believe that Accurate lathe cuts his moulds. We asked him one time why he didn't do a smaller meplat or even a more pointed bullet and he reply was because of tool bit chatter.
    Yes you are mistaken he uses a CNC machine. It's been a long time since I asked about why he couldn't do a round nose. .18 really isn't that bad

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    Getting another company into the group buy group would be great. I understand the difficulties in the CNC machine shop process. Getting a proven design into the process can take awhile and you need the right people to do it.

    I've wanting another 147 grain 9mm mould for awhile, but it needs to be 8 cavity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboredad View Post
    Yes you are mistaken he uses a CNC machine. It's been a long time since I asked about why he couldn't do a round nose. .18 really isn't that bad

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    I think that it is you that is mistaken. This is what it says on his site: "Accurate Molds offers CNC lathe bored bullet molds in aluminum, brass, and iron. Choose from our extensive catalog of existing designs, or submit a custom design of your own." It's a lathe that is CNC controlled so I'm right saying he cuts his moulds on a lathe.
    Last edited by TD1886; 08-12-2023 at 08:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valley-Shooter View Post
    Getting another company into the group buy group would be great. I understand the difficulties in the CNC machine shop process. Getting a proven design into the process can take awhile and you need the right people to do it.

    I've wanting another 147 grain 9mm mould for awhile, but it needs to be 8 cavity.
    https://www.mp-molds.com/product/mp-359-147-bb/

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    Tom at Accurate has told me that if the calibre (or base, in the case of boattails) is too small, or the Meplat is too small, the tools cannot be made rigid enough or strong enough to provide good cavities on his CNC Lathe....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamsek View Post
    No. I already own that one. I'm thinking about a NLG. MP has those also, but the shipping is really high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valley-Shooter View Post
    No. I already own that one. I'm thinking about a NLG. MP has those also, but the shipping is really high.
    The shipping for MP moulds is a deal-breaker for me. I can buy similar American-made moulds from NOE or Accurate for the same price, but then again I don't want all the fancy hollow-point pins and such that MP offers. He does seem to have a corner on the market for some unique designs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodtroll View Post
    The shipping for MP moulds is a deal-breaker for me. I can buy similar American-made moulds from NOE or Accurate for the same price, but then again I don't want all the fancy hollow-point pins and such that MP offers. He does seem to have a corner on the market for some unique designs.
    Been a little while since I ordered a MP mould, but last time I think it was around $12 which I though very reasonable considering where it came from. I also got them faster then any company in the U.S.
    No I don't work for him. I just think he's a subperb machinist and I like the moulds I bought from him. The bullets from them were easy to get shooting very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TD1886 View Post
    Been a little while since I ordered a MP mould, but last time I think it was around $12 which I though very reasonable considering where it came from. I also got them faster then any company in the U.S.
    No I don't work for him. I just think he's a subperb machinist and I like the moulds I bought from him. The bullets from them were easy to get shooting very well.
    Yep, time has changed things. Cheapest shipping on a four-cavity mould I had in my cart was well over $30 ($32 or $35, I don't remember which).

    But most folks do agree that his moulds are a work of art, although there are a couple of folks on here who've had bad experiences, same as with any manufacturer.
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    A short update. Had an ablation for a-fib, so a little setback recently. Back on track now. Poured concrete, have a pre-made building ordered, so end of summer being the earlies is not going to happen, but we are probably on track for the end of the year or early 2024.

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    Always nice to have options. I will keep this thread marked.

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