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Thread: MP 454-423, which version to get? In the correct forum this time.

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    MP 454-423, which version to get? In the correct forum this time.

    This is a repost from my original over in the Cast Boolits sub-forum:

    Is there any reason not to get the hollow-point version of the 454-423 from MP, even if I (maybe) will mostly cast solid bullets?

    https://www.mp-molds.com/product/mp-454-423-pb-solid/
    https://www.mp-molds.com/product/mp-454-423-hp-pb-4cav/

    Obviously the solid only version is less expensive, but the HP version obviously much more flexible.

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    I have both MP .455 Webley molds - the MKII and MKIV - which are hollow-base designs. I greatly prefer their Cramer style hollow base/point system to NOE's, but it's still a bit more fiddly than a simple two-block, solid bullet mold. Solids out of an NOE HP mold were a bit of a PITA since you need to get the pins to settle at the right height. I expect the MP would be much easier, but I've had no reason to cast solid base Webley slugs.

    With its .34" meplat, the solid 423 is a pretty good wrecking ball of a bullet as is - it just comes down to how much versatility you think you need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigslug View Post
    I greatly prefer their Cramer style hollow base/point system to NOE's, but it's still a bit more fiddly than a simple two-block, solid bullet mold. Solids out of an NOE HP mold were a bit of a PITA since you need to get the pins to settle at the right height. I expect the MP would be much easier


    My exact thoughts. If I was not specifically getting a mould for the HP, then I would get the solid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sukivel View Post
    My exact thoughts. If I was not specifically getting a mould for the HP, then I would get the solid.
    I have a feeling that I'll end up with both versions for bullets I want to cast in both HP and solid. Darn.
    Last edited by TXTad; 01-30-2023 at 12:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXTad View Post
    I have a feeling that I'll end up with both versions for bullets I want to cast in both HP and solid. Darn.
    Honestly, they're incredibly well priced for what you're getting - and they're in stock. Suck it up and buy both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TXTad View Post
    I have a feeling that I'll end up with both versions for bullets I want to cast in both HP and solid. Darn.
    You already know that is your destiny…


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    I would buy the HP mold and run 2 solid pins and 2 HP pins.

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    In all of the handgun rounds I have fired in the past 50+ years, a solid has always gotten the job done. Hollow points, especially the penta points merely look cool.

    I guess they look neat when recovered from paper pulp, water, jello or whatever. I don’t hunt those things. I like complete pass through on game and the solid 452423 delivers that for me.

    It may not work for you, but that is what works for me.

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    Get the one with the hollow point accessories. You’ll be glad you did.

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