Anyone got any load data for 25/35 using IMR 4198?

[koger]

Ok I have a buddy who is casting for his 99 Savage in 25/35 , using a 120 gr gc RCBS mold. He has a huge amount of IMR 4198, so anyone have any data for this bullet and this powder, all feedback appreciated.

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[beagle]

I've used 14-15 grains of 4198 in my Marlin when I was playing with it. 25-100-FN RCBS bullet weighing around 110 grains. Gave me about 1800 FPS. Place to start./beagle

[P Flados]

Not load data, but the following Quickload table may be helpful:

Cartridge          : .25-35 Win.
Bullet             : .257, 117, RCBS SP GC 257-120-SP
Useable Case Capaci: 30.319 grain H2O = 1.969 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : IMR 4198

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   72    18.00   2035    1076   27697   5191     99.2    1.517
-09.0   73    18.20   2054    1096   28453   5238     99.4    1.499
-08.0   73    18.40   2072    1115   29224   5283     99.5    1.481
-07.0   74    18.60   2090    1135   30011   5327     99.6    1.463
-06.0   75    18.80   2108    1155   30816   5369     99.7    1.446
-05.0   76    19.00   2127    1175   31639   5410     99.8    1.429
-04.0   77    19.20   2144    1195   32479   5449     99.9    1.413
-03.0   77    19.40   2162    1215   33337   5487     99.9    1.397
-02.0   78    19.60   2180    1235   34212   5522    100.0    1.381
-01.0   79    19.80   2198    1255   35110   5557    100.0    1.366
+00.0   80    20.00   2215    1275   36024   5589    100.0    1.350
+01.0   81    20.20   2232    1295   36959   5622    100.0    1.335
+02.0   81    20.40   2250    1315   37913   5654    100.0    1.321  ! Near Maximum !
+03.0   82    20.60   2267    1335   38888   5687    100.0    1.306  ! Near Maximum !
+04.0   83    20.80   2284    1355   39884   5719    100.0    1.292  ! Near Maximum !
+05.0   84    21.00   2301    1375   40902   5751    100.0    1.279  ! Near Maximum !

[P Flados]

And here is the data at larger step intervals

Cartridge          : .25-35 Win.
Bullet             : .257, 117, RCBS SP GC 257-120-SP
Useable Case Capaci: 30.319 grain H2O = 1.969 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : IMR 4198

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.703% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-27.0   54    13.50   1592     659   14419   3801     90.3    2.062
-24.3   56    14.00   1643     702   15587   3982     91.8    1.986
-21.6   58    14.50   1694     746   16823   4157     93.2    1.914
-18.9   60    15.00   1745     791   18132   4327     94.5    1.847
-16.2   62    15.50   1795     837   19514   4490     95.6    1.784
-13.5   64    16.00   1844     883   20978   4646     96.6    1.724
-10.8   66    16.50   1893     931   22524   4795     97.4    1.668
-08.1   68    17.00   1941     978   24156   4936     98.1    1.615
-05.4   70    17.50   1988    1027   25875   5068     98.7    1.565
-02.7   72    18.00   2035    1076   27697   5191     99.2    1.517
+00.0   74    18.50   2081    1125   29615   5305     99.6    1.472
+02.7   76    19.00   2127    1175   31639   5410     99.8    1.429
+05.4   78    19.50   2171    1225   33774   5505    100.0    1.389
+08.1   80    20.00   2215    1275   36024   5589    100.0    1.350
+10.8   82    20.50   2258    1325   38399   5671    100.0    1.314  ! Near Maximum !
+13.5   84    21.00   2301    1375   40902   5751    100.0    1.279  ! Near Maximum !

[Kosh75287]

According to Hodgdon, 18.8/H4198/117 gr. Hdy. RN gives 36,100 p.s.i. and 2065 f/s from a 24" barrel.
The higher velocity from the quick load program makes sense, in terms of their projectile having a higher lubricity, even with a gas check. QL suggests that you have some room to improve over Hodgdon's results. If your firearm is not of post-war vintage, I'd stay conservative.