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Thread: Do We Melt or Smelt

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    Do We Melt or Smelt

    smelt
    /smelt/
    verb
    extract (metal) from its ore by a process involving heating and melting.
    We all know what melt is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44MAG#1 View Post
    smelt
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    All these years--- I'd always thought smelt was a little fish.
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    Smelt as in I smelt something burning in the kitchen??
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    I smelt something good cooking on the grill?? Maybe a little on the fishy side though.

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    Isn’t the rule that if you smelt it, you dealt it?

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    Smelting is a term of art when used in boolit casting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    Smelting is a term of art when used in boolit casting.
    Nah,,, it's just from someone typing that has a lisp.
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    This has been argued here many times.

    I guess it partly depends on how you define “ore” ;^]

    I prefer to call separating the metals I get from the stuff I don’t want “processing”, eventually ending up with casting alloy. That gets me around the fine points of whether it meets the formal definition of smelting.

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    To me smelting is a process done to clean the alloy/lead so it can be cast ingots. While it's not from ore it still done for cleaning and refining.

    Melting is just that. You melt your lead/alloy to cast bullets.
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    refine
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    re·​fine ri-ˈfīn
    refined; refining

    transitive verb
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    : to free (something, such as metal, sugar, or oil) from impurities or unwanted material

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    I mine bullet scrap from our berm at the club I belong to. Therefore, the scrap is the ore that has been mined. So, if the scrap is the ore, then I am smelting.

    "I'm Smelting, I'm Smelting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch-1 View Post
    I mine bullet scrap from our berm at the club I belong to. Therefore, the scrap is the ore that has been mined. So, if the scrap is the ore, then I am smelting.

    "I'm Smelting, I'm Smelting.
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    Or are you melting, fluxing and refining to cleanse the dirty metal already smelted from it's parent ore so you can cast bullets with it?

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    iitc a smelt is a salt water fish - smelting is extracting metal from ore as already stated -
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    You know what we're talking about when we say it or type it?

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    Smelting takes place ONLY when extracting lead from the original ore.

    Since range scrap has already been smelted, the process then becomes simply melting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsizemore View Post
    You know what we're talking about when we say it or type it?
    That was my first thoughts too! I know that by definition "smelting" is not the correct term for what we do with scrap lead but its the term that I use. I expect that most casters know what I'm talking about when I use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsizemore View Post
    You know what we're talking about when we say it or type it?
    "know
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    verb

    be aware of through observation, inquiry, or information.

    un·der·stand
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    perceive the intended meaning of (words, a language, or a speaker)."
    I understand/know what is meant but knowing/understanding may be a different thing because that requires a working knowledge/understanding of the speaker or typist mind.
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    term of art

    �� High School Level
    noun
    a word or phrase that has a specific or precise meaning within a given discipline or field and might have a different meaning in common usage:
    Set is a term of art used by mathematicians, and burden of proof is a term of art used by lawyers.
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    One day it was so hot I thought I was going to melt. I was sweating so much, my friends told me I smelt.
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