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Thread: Traditions "Pioneer" ?

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    Boolit Bub Woodbridge 30-30's Avatar
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    Traditions "Pioneer" ?

    Hey y'all, I just picked up a, new to me, Traditions 50 cal just like the one in the photo. It is a 1:48 and from what I can gather it's called a 'Pioneer'? The raised comb and pistol grip stock seems fairly unique but cannot find much else about this rifle.

    One person suggested that they were sold exclusively through Kmart years ago? I bought it for the intended purpose of hunting deer. I am not new to muzzleloaders but am new to "traditional" muzzleloaders.

    I make a similar post over at GBO and THR but didn't get much reponse. I would appreciate any insight, info, or experience that you might have with this specific rifle.

    Thanks, Woodbridge

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    Boolit Master
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    I saw on of those a couple years back.
    I looked at it because of the Monte Carlo style stock shape.
    I was looking for ideas to build a style stock that people would like because it was more like their modern rifle stocks.
    And sort of historic , and not an In Line.
    Traditions are fairly good and do work good , especially for beginners.
    Mainly because of the cost, and parts are available from Traditions if they break something.
    I am a builder , and I have built two Traditions Kits plus have another Kit that I have to build.
    I got that one from my late friends estate.
    I intend to build it and give it to his grandsons.
    I was told by the seller of the Pioneer rifle that it was a 1:66 twist bore for round balls.
    Last edited by LAGS; 01-11-2023 at 12:26 PM.

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    One of my brothers has that rifle in .54 caliber. He has successfully used it on drawn hunts (State land) a few times. The one time that I shot it with him I was impressed.


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    Boolit Buddy
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    with a 1-48 twist it will do well with round ball and patch

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    Boolit Master
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    Have had several Traditions rifles and my buds also had them. Very accurate with RB in both the 1:48 and 1:66 twists.

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    I've almost had one before and may yet.
    Looks like a nicely planned out piece, especially for my ideas of front yard plinking.

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