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    Alox 50/50 with mineral spirits

    Hello,

    I am waiting for a new bottle of Xlox from White Label Lubes. I am also getting low on my Johnson's Liquid Wax that I use for making BLL.

    I am going to try a 50/50 mix of Xlox and mineral spirits. Has anyone ever used this mix for high velocity loads?

    I have diluted Lee's Alox before but only used it on 45 ACP and 45 LC. My plan is to try 3 light coats on my 30 and 35 caliber bullets at around 1800 to 1900 fps. Maybe higher.

    Thanks in advance for your time.

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    The only way you will know is to try. From what I think I know and have read your velocities may be pushing it a bit, but maybe not. Three coats is what I would do also If I were going to try.
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    The mineral spirits will only help the Xlox to dry faster and brings nothing to the lubricity.
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    Can't you use a commode ring to replace Johnson's wax. I have some but haven't tried because I still have a couple cans of Johnsons. People on you tube use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45DUDE View Post
    Can't you use a commode ring to replace Johnson's wax. I have some but haven't tried because I still have a couple cans of Johnsons. People on you tube use it.
    Johnson's Liquid wax and Johnson's Paste wax are two completley different products.

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    Thank you everyone for the replies.

    My goal was to use Alox or Xlox only and to thin it with mineral spirits to make it stretch further.

    I was curious if anyone else was using this same method for faster loads.

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    1800-1900 IMHO is a bit much for tumble lubes like alox. I use them up to about 1300ish fps.

    Going with multiple thin coats is also what i would do if trying to build up.. vs one huge thick coat.. unless I was just making a few and was just dipping bases.. in which case I would use straight.

    I think everyone is aware that the mineral spirits is just a thinner... for faster drying you could even use a hair of mineral spirits and then naptha... naptha flashes fast...

    To the other poster that mentioned toilet bowl rings.. they have long been some synthetic material.. at least in my part of the woods.

    I think If I was doing this.. i might mix alox and paste wax and a hair of red grease along with some mineral spirits.. add in a little wax from a crayon or a candle.. heat and stir.. I do this with those empty picnic ketchup bottles you can buy at walmart for 84 cents.. After heating pour it in the bottle.. from there you can dribble over the bullets and lube them in a old food container by shaking or in a sandwich bag.. then dump out on waxed paper. The mixture will solidify at room temp in a few minutes. To reheap the bottle.. just microwave a bowl of water and then set this squeeze container in it.. like a double boiler.. it will soon soften and flow.
    I've had great luck with lubes like that and similar ( some with soap and castor oil added ).. on rifles in the 2500fps range with 0 leading. ( and a gas check and lyman #2 alloy.. etc.. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by BK7saum View Post
    Johnson's Liquid wax and Johnson's Paste wax are two completley different products.
    Sorry==Mine is paste wax=mineral sprits-and Lee alox. It's a backup in case I run out of 450 White Label lube.
    Last edited by 45DUDE; 01-11-2023 at 11:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45DUDE View Post
    Can't you use a commode ring to replace Johnson's wax. I have some but haven't tried because I still have a couple cans of Johnsons. People on you tube use it.
    People on U-tube don't have to know what they talk about or be correct in what they do .

    The toilet rings used to be made with Beeswax ... but no longer , they are all Paraffin based now and will not take the place ... replace , Johnson's Paste or Johnson's Liquid wax
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    Since you already have the X-lox and mineral spirits, pick up a can of Johnson's Paste Wax and proceed as follows:

    https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...=1#post5514075
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    if you warm the boolits in oven warm lube in microwave should be plenty thin without reducing lube

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    Per yall's recommendations in the past and because I normally use Lee TL type boolits, I always use 50/50 Lee Liquid Alox and Mineral Spirits. Not had any trouble at all.
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    I've been using 45-45-10 to tumble lube for a couple of years now and it works great. 45% white labs xlox, 45% Johnson's paste wax, and 10% mineral spirits. It only takes a few drops to swirl lube a batch of boolits, and it dries really well. Multiple coats can be applied if needed. straight xlox and mineral spirits might be sticky after it dries, but 45-45-10 is "almost" dry to the touch. The johnson's liquid wax might be long gone, but the paste wax is still available.

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    My understanding is the Johnson's paste wax has been discontinued also. I can't find it anywhere. Also have read that Trewax brand paste wax with carnuba can be used as a substitute. Has anyone tried it? If it works I will get some before I run out of Johnson's.

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    Several internet places sell beeswax.
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    Lowes here sells the Johnson's paste wax.

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    I use Alox and mineral spirits mixed together. I'll be honest and tell you I've forgotten the ratio I used. I think 50-50. Works great on pistol boolits. But I only load .38spl .357mag and .44mag at less than 1200fps. No leading. I lube then size through a Lee push through sizer and then re-lube. I actually let mine dry for about two weeks or so before boxing to allow them to completely dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fayettefatts View Post
    My understanding is the Johnson's paste wax has been discontinued also. I can't find it anywhere. Also have read that Trewax brand paste wax with carnuba can be used as a substitute. Has anyone tried it? If it works I will get some before I run out of Johnson's.
    My local Home Depot still sells Johnson's Paste Wax, it's the liquid version that was discontinued some time ago.
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