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Thread: Dark bore but shows rifling. Shootable or collector piece.

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    Cleaned and lapped out the bore a bit more.
    Looks shinier each time.
    I forced a tight fitting patch through and it left 3x little tips of cloth where there is sharp sink holes.
    I bumped and lapped a bit more in that tight area and I’m hoping it may help some.
    Fire lapped 5 bullets with metal cleaner through it with a very light charge.
    Might try it before I do a groove Lapp and see how it goes.
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    You can see where the heel has not quite bumped up to fill the grooves yet
    The groove diameter is dark, alla rust and gook.
    Maybe best to keep it that way.
    The collected bullet seems a lot more consistent push through the rifle again, well not too bad anyway, it don’t jump in spots and seems tighter at the muzzle now.
    Might be worth a go.
    Slowly slowly catch the monkey.
    Think the dimensions at the tightest are now 0.3135-0.322"
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    No better but maybe more consistent.
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    About 2"at 50 yrds.
    I’m tossing up between firing lubed metal polished bullets or try and makes cutter to pull or push through the bore to help even up the lands.
    I bet there is an easy way to do this.
    If I can make a cutter that will follow the grooves.
    All of a sudden a 30 bore looks awe full small.
    Ha.

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    Doesn’t seem like lots of improvement but loaded with cereal on top of the charge kept the bore heaps cleaner.
    I think there was an improvement with gun and time will tell.
    If I had to survive on it I would be at least be eating wallabies.
    Ha

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    In my case my worst was a Mosin Nagant built in 43. Lots of old deep copper fouling that kept coming out.

    Once I had a big enough boolit and good enough lube the leading stopped. From there it was 5 or 6 cycles of shoot 20-30 rounds, clean, oil, and shoot before I finally saw the bottom of the rifling. I was lucky, no big pits or problems. Just a square edge at the end of the brass neck that liked to shave lead. Once I dealt with that with a hand whittled dowel carved into cartridge shape, a slot cut and some 0000 steel wool my problems were over.

    Hang in there, keep shooting, cleaning. ATF is great for getting old fouling out. Run a dripping wet patch down the bore, walk away for an hour or 3. Then come back and clean up with TIGHT dry patch's. Finish with a light ATF patch to protect the bore till you shoot again.

    Hang in there!
    I truly believe we need to get back to basics.

    Get right with the Lord.
    Get back to the land.
    Get back to thinking like our forefathers thought.


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    Some more progress has been made.
    The first 8 rnds That’s all I got for it.2.5" at 50 yrds
    Next 5 rounds reloaded hovering around an inch but blowing out to 1.5"
    Last 5 rounds loaded 1" at 50 yrds.
    As it got more fouled the better it shot.
    So naturally I cleaned it and put it away.
    Tonight.
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    You will have to trust me on this because I was also shooting my new 30-30 with pp’ed bullets.
    They to tightened up with more fouling but only to 2" at 50 yrds.
    I shot the last pp’d at this spot but guessed right for a change on elevation and offset.

    May do a little more fire lapping and test again.
    Sort of coming all together.
    Now the only thing I need to do is wipe some lead in the rough neck area of the chamber so the cases won’t stick.
    Or learn to size my cases each shot.
    All is good in the world.
    Barra

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    If you keep cleaning the bore, you will continue chasing accuracy.
    The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
    John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"

    Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!


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    In these endeavors you must not pass the point of diminishing returns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waksupi View Post
    If you keep cleaning the bore, you will continue chasing accuracy.
    This is Waaayyy more true than most admit... Shoot the darn thing.. Then.... shoot it some more...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shawlerbrook View Post
    In these endeavors you must not pass the point of diminishing returns.
    Also very True... but, I like to Shoot anyway...so

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check