"Brush Gun" loads for .45-70 cast HP

[Loudy13]

I shoot a 388gr HP with 12.5 grains of Trail Boss its subsonic and will hit steel at 200m @ 100 it is super accurate no recoil but still makes some noise.
Hogdon has a load chart for Trail boss which includes the 45-70 with multiple different loads

[mehavey]

Unique/12.0gr
Gould 330 Clone using Pure Lead/PC'd
50 "brush gun" yds

NO powder positioning -- just rack into chamber and shoot
(I did use a bag)

[BLAHUT]

Unique/12.0gr
Gould 330 Clone using Pure Lead/PC'd
50 "brush gun" yds

NO powder positioning -- just rack into chamber and shoot
(I did use a bag)

If you wanted too? You can bump the bullet up to 500+ grs and put 12.5 gr unique under it for about 1180 FPS. Real accurate.

[alping45]

[alping45]

Well here are some pics of the rifle. Unfortunately it looks like the image hosting site murdered the resolution of the pictures, but you get the idea.

I had a handful of boolits left over from a Lyman 457122 mold that I cast years ago, don't even know what alloy the were but they weighed 345gr. I loaded them up with as much trailboss as would fit into a case without compressing and am getting 1,200fps and pretty mild recoil. Haven't tried grouping them but they were smacking my torso sized steel at 75yds without having even adjusted the sights.

[lightman]

I shoot a 405 grain bullet cast from clip-on wheelweights with a starting charge of either 3031 or 4895. It doesn't thump me too bad in a Ruger #1.

[Harter66]

I cast the 462-420 PB/HB . I cast it in 75/25 WW-1/20 . The PB ran 417gr the HB 380gr . In the 1895 G it was having no part of light loads . It is an Illion assembled rifle from New Haven parts 6 right @ 1-20" 18" . The harder I pushed it the more it liked it , 12-15 Unique was 8" groups at 13-1400 fps MV it got down to 3" about 1600 fps but any resemblance to fun was gone . I didn't try the lighter HB , I do have some 50/50 Pure/WW to try that did 7/8" expansion from a 1000 fps MV 45-200 in live Oak at 25 yd with 100% retention of weight . My thought is that if it'll group at 12-1400 it should be enough for almost anything short of a zoo break in Arkansas.

[alping45]

Well I got the MP mold, which is absolutely stunning, and cast up a batch with the "pentapoint" insert. I threw in a 1lb ingot of COWW with soft lead to fill my 10lb pot, the boolits are coming out at 407gr sized & lubed. The bore slugged at just under .458, so I sized to .459.

Hopefully I can find some time between festivities on this long weekend to get some loaded up and try them out.

[alping45]

Attachment 308339

[Milky Duck]

now THAT is a hollowpoint!!!!

[Milky Duck]

tell me more about this dynapoint insert thing...does it sit in a flat point mold or does it need specific mold to work in??

[alping45]

The hollow point MP Molds come with a set of 4 different pins, a regular small round hollow point, a wide shallow cup hollow point, solid flat point, and the deltapoint.
The mold needs to be made to accept the pins. There are companies that can machine regular molds to accept them.

[Milky Duck]

thanks for that.

[jednorris]

Trapdoor charges with 405 gr. bullet 30:1 and Bullseye Powder will fill your every wish. Recoil, accuracy, velocity and killing power.

[Winger Ed.]

If you follow the load date for the old, antique trap door Springfields,
that should get you where you want to go.
The lighter the boolit, the less the recoil will be also.

[Milky Duck]

just poked 45grns of ADI 2219 behind some 330grn gould mold boolits.... should be interesting to see terminal results,they are cast very soft,I can manipulate the HP too easily by inserting rod and rotating ,made it much bigger very easily so stopped that idea. the bullet lube had all but gone so added some home made moisturiser made mainly from tallow/oil with a bit of smelly lavender for added effect LOL... seemed about right consistancy and was at hand.