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    Never own a hard drive again

    I just set up my new computer - 16gb ram, 1 tb SSD drive, Windows 11 pro.
    From a cold boot, 10 seconds later, the machine is ready to work.
    Screamingly fast, and I will NEVER own another traditional hard drive again.
    If you are getting a new box, get the SSD drive.
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    That is an absolute fact. The ssd drive is the way to go. The prices have finally came down to an affordable price. The speed is unbelievable. If you need additional storage you could go with a regular external hard drive but for boot up time and bringing up programs especially working on photos and large files the ssd can’t be beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FISH4BUGS View Post
    I just set up my new computer - 16gb ram, 1 tb SSD drive, Windows 11 pro.
    From a cold boot, 10 seconds later, the machine is ready to work.
    Screamingly fast, and I will NEVER own another traditional hard drive again.
    If you are getting a new box, get the SSD drive.
    The only way to fly.

    I've had an SSD for the last 12 years but still use spinny drives for my gopro files and photos and such. It's getting time to build a new box and I will transfer my 2 magnetic drives to the new unit most likely, but certainly for the OS and your software, the SSD is the way to go.

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    I wish I had one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FISH4BUGS View Post
    I just set up my new computer - 16gb ram, 1 tb SSD drive, Windows 11 pro.
    From a cold boot, 10 seconds later, the machine is ready to work.
    Screamingly fast, and I will NEVER own another traditional hard drive again.
    If you are getting a new box, get the SSD drive.
    The only way to fly.
    You'll feel differently when the SSD dies. The best option is an SSD AND a hard drive. Blistering fast boot and lots of storage. Set up your file storage on the HD, operating system on the SSD. When the boot drive goes away on you, it won't take your file system with it. I lost most of half a terabyte of metalworking data the last time my HD died. And from what I've read, SSD's don't usually last as long as an HD if you write/rewrite a lot of data to them. Same problem with SD/microSD & flash drives. I've killed a bunch of both over the last few years.

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    2 is one and one is none. Never truer than with data.

    My stuff is on a primary hard drive, backed up on a secondary hard drive and a third copy on an NAS drive not inside the box.

    That said, I’d love it if the primary drive was an SSD.
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    No system is perfect. Today's technology is tomorrow's trash. Never say "Never". That is tempting fate.

    There is no longer a port for 5.5" (what?) or 3.5" floppy, though floppies (containing data) still exist. Thumb and CD drives are out. USB-A sockets are out. Micro-sockets are in. Phones are the PC of the day. "The Cloud" is the public's repository for storage. Browsers spy on every online keystroke. Privacy is "assured" (Ha!).

    In long-term memory, I can still hear AOL dialing up "ding-ding-dong...", Mom (mostly) and Dad trying to figure out "that confounded" email, the conflicts that arise out of MicroSoft and Apple platform "upgrades", CAD in the early 80's, programming and doing research on an 8088 single 5.5" floppy (no hard) drive with 256K of total storage, and the days before Spyware and Virus protection. We've come a long way!

    All of that just to say, I don't even know what an SSD drive is. I suppose, in not knowing, I have no clue what I am missing. Then again, I am not displeased with the hardware I own and use, delayed response or not. I'll probably go to my sunset with a hard drive.
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    Wait until you get an NVRAM based one, directly on the mainboard. About 100 times faster than the Sata based SSD You will never go back to SSD LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Land Owner View Post
    No system is perfect. Today's technology is tomorrow's trash. Never say "Never". That is tempting fate.

    There is no longer a port for 5.5" (what?) or 3.5" floppy, though floppies (containing data) still exist. Thumb and CD drives are out. USB-A sockets are out. Micro-sockets are in. Phones are the PC of the day. "The Cloud" is the public's repository for storage. Browsers spy on every online keystroke. Privacy is "assured" (Ha!).

    In long-term memory, I can still hear AOL dialing up "ding-ding-dong...", Mom (mostly) and Dad trying to figure out "that confounded" email, the conflicts that arise out of MicroSoft and Apple platform "upgrades", CAD in the early 80's, programming and doing research on an 8088 single 5.5" floppy (no hard) drive with 256K of total storage, and the days before Spyware and Virus protection. We've come a long way!

    All of that just to say, I don't even know what an SSD drive is. I suppose, in not knowing, I have no clue what I am missing. Then again, I am not displeased with the hardware I own and use, delayed response or not. I'll probably go to my sunset with a hard drive.
    I guess we are somewhat similar. I wrote my dissertation on an Apple 11e, dual floppy disk drive, and Wordstar 1.1. It had a modem, blindingly fast at 300baud. I don't know what an SSD drive is either.
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    SSD as primary but a 2.5 sata external HD for "Full system" or image backup. Or use another external HD that has the capacity for the backup.
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    For those that indicated confusion as to SSD: "SSD" stands for Solid State Drive. It's a storage drive that uses flash chips for storage instead of a spinning, magnetic platter. They are much faster than HDD's (Hard Disk Drives) but usually of lesser capacity for the same price. Furthermore, they slow down as their capacity is filled and they have a set lifetime (In read-write operations).

    They come in two varieties:
    1) SATA
    2)NVME

    SATA is the same interconnect used by HDD's for many years. HDD's usually can't saturate the bandwidth of a SATA connection, but SSD's frequently can. NVME is a much faster connection and allows SSD's to be even faster. NVME SSD's are (usually) a slight bit more expensive and require a modern (last 5-8 years or so...) motherboard.

    One last note: Try to keep from completely filling up an SSD or it might fail prematurely. They're cheap enough now that upgrading to bigger one won't break the bank, and it's much less of a headache than having a drive crash and taking your data with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FISH4BUGS View Post
    I just set up my new computer - 16gb ram, 1 tb SSD drive, Windows 11 pro.
    From a cold boot, 10 seconds later, the machine is ready to work.
    Screamingly fast, and I will NEVER own another traditional hard drive again.
    If you are getting a new box, get the SSD drive.
    The only way to fly.
    Sorry to bust the ol' bubble, but almost ALL of the newer machines have an NVME slot onboard, nvme drive is 10x faster than the fastest SSD... I use the NVME to boot from, have linux installed on it, and I use the 2TB SSD to store pics, music, downloads, backup copies of my FF profile, etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by racepres View Post
    Very old dell laptop, running Linux...Lightning Fast
    Same here, old Dell Precision M4600 uses nvme to boot Linux Mint Cinnamon from, separate SSD for storage and a 3rd SSD in a DVD tray adapter for more storage.
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    As mentioned, your O/S and files that are easily replaced from DVD or download can go on the SSD. Data you do not want to lose goes on a regular hard drive. SSD's can only be written to so many times before they fail and are not meant to store data that changes a lot. ANY data that changes often MUST go to a hard drive, like your browser cache files... my checking account data... my ham radio log book file gets written to daily... that will destroy a SSD in short order. When I was doing laser engraving I was editing images daily...

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    I use two separate laptops one with a standard hard drive and the other with SSD. You know which one hardly gets used.
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    Anyone else here reminded of the old TV commercial, where the judge was sitting on the bench saying mumbo…jumbo. Mumbo..jumbo.?

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    So who remembers 80 column punch cards, Hollerith code, 256K 'MAIN Frame' the size of 3 refrigerators? Assembler, FORTRAN, COBOL coding languages. Paper tape programs were sent to banks, Savings and Loans to run teller machines (1980's), paper tape programs were also punched for the early CNC machines.

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