LBT Still In Business???

[fc60]

Greetings,

Ordered and paid for two moulds a few months ago.

Checking on the status, I telephoned and emailed to get no response.

Check has been cashed.

Has anyone received any LBT products lately? (moulds, grease, etc...)

Cheers,

Dave

[Bazoo]

I’ve heard this same story for about 5 years or more now. Entry time it’s no communication and then finally the mould arrives. Some folks just put their head in the sand and wait, some fret over it. Don’t make no difference to Mr Smith it seems.

[Rapier]

Today you just about need to call, to make sure people are still working. I get asked all of the time, my stock answer is call first.

[vhntr1]

I paid for a mould 8 months ago still nothing.

[Fitz]

I bought his 2nd edition of jacket performance with lead bullets 4or 5 years ago sent a check it was cashed no book finally got him to answer a e-mail to which he replied he is still writing the book but when it is finished he would mail it to me , at this point i decided it's only 28 bucks count it as a lost and be glad it's not a 120.00 dollar mould , Now the only LBT moulds I get come from e-bay. wish it were different love his moulds but his customer service is non existent .

[jaysouth]

He makes more money making molds than answering phones.

[stubshaft]

I called and spoke to his daughter about a month and a half ago and she told me he had broken his hip.

[redneck1]

Flame on ....

Way back when veral got himself 4 years in prison for tax evasion.
Had an attitude after he got out an got a month or two more here an there . ....
Around that time he brought out the crazy and started saying how the government was attacking him with microwave radiation and all sorts of other off the wall stuff .

I decided that even though the man seems to know about cast bullets and everyone said he made good molds I wouldn't be doing business with him , mostly because of the crazy paranoid comments and partly with the known felon aspect and firearms ....

Hope you folks get what you paid for or your money back .....

[tja6435]

Last mold I ordered from LBT was in 2017, actually 2x 4 cavity molds. They arrived before the check had been cashed. I called to make sure he had the check and offered to send another if he lost the first one.

I find his molds cast fantastically right out of the box. I hope Veral can recover from his hip break and get back to business.

[barnabus]

ive bought from him once and never again.he cashed my check for a mould and it was 6 months before i recieved it.Phone calls and emails didnt make any difference. IMO he is the worst when it comes to anyone in the mould business. He doesnt deserve anyones business. That experience ruined me for anything LBT.Now knowing he has been in prison makes sense,

[Bentstick]

Took about 7 months here to receive the mold I ordered with no replies to emails or calls then oneday checked the mail and there it was, good mold to specs.

[kevin c]

Veral sold me a hardness tester. He and I had a polite, respectful, prompt and informative exchange of a few emails on the niceties of fine tuning it.

I’ll grant, though, that it was something like five years ago and came out of stock on hand, not like a custom ordered mold.

[BIGOX]

I was looking into picking up an LBT mould and discovered that the shop machinery and tools have been consumed by fire and with no insurance this means he's out of the business. The fie happened over the Christmas holiday.

https://lbtmolds.com/Portals/143/Con...ine%20Shop.pdf

[Rickf1985]

Interesting, I looked up that business address on several satellite imagery maps and I see all 7 houses but no burned buildings. I bought one of his hardness testers back in January and it was nowhere near my Lee tester which has a very high test rating so I called him up. He said I can grind some off the face of the point of the tester and that will bring it in spec! I asked if he was kidding? Nope, just grind some off of it. If it turns out bad he will take care of me. Sure glad I did not take that advice. I just consider it lost money and a bad deal. Not the first and probably not the last.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

Interesting, I looked up that business address on several satellite imagery maps and I see all 7 houses but no burned buildings. I bought one of his hardness testers back in January and it was nowhere near my Lee tester which has a very high test rating so I called him up. He said I can grind some off the face of the point of the tester and that will bring it in spec! I asked if he was kidding? Nope, just grind some off of it. If it turns out bad he will take care of me. Sure glad I did not take that advice. I just consider it lost money and a bad deal. Not the first and probably not the last.

Google earth images can be two or three years old.

[barnabus]

Greetings,

Ordered and paid for two moulds a few months ago.

Checking on the status, I telephoned and emailed to get no response.

Check has been cashed.

Has anyone received any LBT products lately? (moulds, grease, etc...)

Cheers,

Dave

lol the guy has a history of taking money and not delivering.he took me for a mould last year,cashed my check and went quite.i doubt the shop burned down,prolly just a way out.

[imashooter2]

LBT burned out. There was another thread on it. All tooling and inventory gone. A total loss.

ETA: the home page of his web site says to contact them ASAP for refund on your mold order.

[imashooter2]

Here is the other thread:
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...l-Smith-at-LBT

[Rickf1985]

I looked at a lot more images than Google Earth. Last one was dated a few weeks ago.

[6622729]

Right on LBT's home page which took me almost 3 seconds to find, it says in large red lettering, " Wondering about your mold order please call us for a refund ASAP.". Doesnt get much simpler than that. Can the stone throwing stop now? Ive never met so many perfect people.