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    Never encountered this form before

    I thought I had seen every type of printing metal that there was out there. Came by this a couple weeks ago. I think it is linotype plus metal but will have it xrf to confirm. Thought some might enjoy the picClick image for larger version. 

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    That is interesting.
    I wonder if it was letters for a newspaper headline.

    The most interesting thing sort of like that I've found in a scrap yard was about a foot thick stack of Tin
    sheets for printing something in Brail.
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    Just out of curiosity I searched on "United American Metals"
    They have a logo similar to the one on yours, a side facing Indian in a war bonnet.

    Looks like they mostly made babbitt, were involved in government contracts in WW2.

    You may have a collector's item there....nice find!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winger Ed. View Post
    That is interesting.
    I wonder if it was letters for a newspaper headline.

    The most interesting thing sort of like that I've found in a scrap yard was about a foot thick stack of Tin
    sheets for printing something in Brail.
    No they are not to print with,the image would need to be reversed plus they are about 2" thick

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    OK, I see it now.

    The HYTIN might be to show what it is, and the block is shipped like that.
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    check wikipedia for monotype

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    HYTIN, High Tin? /Ingots for making solder bars for old time car body repair and such? I say old time and yet I have done auto body work with lead and solder. That's depressing!

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    That is not printing type. Monotype, Linotype for printing is/are reversed stand about 1" tall.

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    i believe they are for the wiped joints on lead pipes, basically a tin rich lead for joining the lead pipe to things like a lead trap.
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    Can't get more definitive than that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cord View Post
    Just out of curiosity I searched on "United American Metals"
    They have a logo similar to the one on yours, a side facing Indian in a war bonnet.

    Looks like they mostly made babbitt, were involved in government contracts in WW2.

    You may have a collector's item there....nice find!
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    I agree. This is definitely not printing type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscra112 View Post
    I agree. This is definitely not printing type.
    But that is what it becomes.

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    Not likely. If it's babbitt, it would have become a machine bearing. Even during WW2, most engine bearings, even in aircraft engines, were still poured and scraped babbitt, so pieces like this would have been in every engine rebuilder's shop.

    The steel-backed inserts we all know today were still experimental at the start of that war.

    Babbitt almost always has some copper in it for strength.

    The wiping solder hypothesis is still in the running, but my sources say it was about 60% lead, 40% tin. Not even the 50-50 we commonly use for sweated joints.
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    that copper is nice.. easy way to harden up a bullet mix without sacrificing as much weight.

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    A few years ago an acquaintance gave me some GC bullets he had cast in an Eagan mould from a babbitt alloy. Very hard, and they shot the lights out from a K31 I was enamored of at the time, loaded to 2200 fps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dar View Post
    Thanks for the link that confirms my original thinking that it was plus metal used to replenish lino or stereo type after remelting process I will still have it XRF since I have found plus metal to vary slightly in chemistry depending om manufacturer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickf1985 View Post
    HYTIN, High Tin? /Ingots for making solder bars for old time car body repair and such? I say old time and yet I have done auto body work with lead and solder. That's depressing!
    Don't let that realization depress you (there are too darned many others that can do it better!). It just means you learned car body repair from craftsmen and not "parts switchers", which pervade the industry, today.
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    Let us know what the composition turns out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscra112 View Post
    Not likely. If it's babbitt, it would have become a machine bearing. Even during WW2, most engine bearings, even in aircraft engines, were still poured and scraped babbitt, so pieces like this would have been in every engine rebuilder's shop.

    The steel-backed inserts we all know today were still experimental at the start of that war.

    Babbitt almost always has some copper in it for strength.

    The wiping solder hypothesis is still in the running, but my sources say it was about 60% lead, 40% tin. Not even the 50-50 we commonly use for sweated joints.
    Umm, Did you read post #10? That is exactly what this stuff is. Replacement print metal alloy. Right there in print, the advertisement with all the specs.

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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
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