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Thread: When will someone publish a book for PC boolits?

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    When will someone publish a book for PC boolits?

    The Lee Cast Bullet Handbook is a resource I turn to frequently. I also use my chronograph frequently. We all should know that lubed lead, polymer coated, plated and jacketed bullets produce very different pressures as well as velocities when loaded with the same powders. Is there too much variation to make a manual practical? Do "Blue Bullets" or Bayou behave differently than my home-cast ones coated with Smoke's powders? Will the new book point us toward powders that work better with PC'd tips? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy developing new loads and experimenting. It's just that I believe many folks could benefit from a little guidance on this subject. Thoughts?

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    I USUALLY get a 5% - 8% increase in muzzle velocity when I substitute PC'd projectiles for the identical cast lead projectiles, IN HANDGUNS. I just sorta load PCd bullets with the expectation that I'll obtain velocities in line with, or slightly more than what's published for cast lead. If I don't (which is rare), I just shoot cast lead, and save the PCd stuff for other loads.
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    There's no money in it.
    And nobody works for free,,,,, at least not for very long.

    As much as it would cost to do the research and testing, then publish it-
    how would they get paid for their time & trouble?

    Lyman might put a article about powder coating in a new edition of their Cast book.
    As far as making all new load data for PC, I doubt if anyone would consider it a worth while venture.
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    We can always count on Winger Ed to put things in perspective. I tend to agree with him on this as there are other variables to consider such as brass, Primers, and loading methods and of cause barrels and barrel twist. I would think climate sea level and alignment of stares may even come into play. In all seriousness I actually enjoy the journey and getting there myself and frequently try and prove the book wrong anyway. I have never tried powder coat myself but have found faster velocity and better accuracy with Hi-Tek with my alloy. Think of how miserable life would be if we all marched to the same tune, what would we talk about. Regards Stephen

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    i make sure to size the boolit to the gun and any difference in pressure is negligible with pc. jacketed its one size fits all, so yes you will get different pressures.
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    Unfortunately, it would cost a lot for the testing and then whatever liability insurance would be needed. It would be interesting, but there are a lot of possible different results due to powder type and procedures used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pergoman View Post
    The Lee Cast Bullet Handbook is a resource I turn to frequently. I also use my chronograph frequently. We all should know that lubed lead, polymer coated, plated and jacketed bullets produce very different pressures as well as velocities when loaded with the same powders. Is there too much variation to make a manual practical? Do "Blue Bullets" or Bayou behave differently than my home-cast ones coated with Smoke's powders? Will the new book point us toward powders that work better with PC'd tips? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy developing new loads and experimenting. It's just that I believe many folks could benefit from a little guidance on this subject. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pergoman View Post
    .... Do "Blue Bullets" or Bayou behave differently than my home-cast ones coated with Smoke's powders? Will the new book point us toward powders that work better with PC'd tips? .... Thoughts?
    Now me, I just don't know the answer. It often seems that nobody tells me anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pergoman View Post
    The Lee Cast Bullet Handbook is a resource I turn to frequently. I also use my chronograph frequently. We all should know that lubed lead, polymer coated, plated and jacketed bullets produce very different pressures as well as velocities when loaded with the same powders. Is there too much variation to make a manual practical? Do "Blue Bullets" or Bayou behave differently than my home-cast ones coated with Smoke's powders? Will the new book point us toward powders that work better with PC'd tips? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy developing new loads and experimenting. It's just that I believe many folks could benefit from a little guidance on this subject. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pergoman View Post
    ....We all should know that lubed lead, polymer coated, plated and jacketed bullets produce very different pressures as well as velocities when loaded with the same powders. Is there too much variation to make a manual practical?
    Yep.

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