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    Lyman #2 recipes wanted

    I have found Lyman's #2 alloy works very well for my accuracy on the targets goals.
    I have the following lead alloys: wheelweights plus 1% tin, ( tests Saeco 7-8) wheelweights that test Saeco 4, pure lead, and linotype.
    I also have 2.5 pounds of pure tin.
    Im looking for a recipe that would utilize the Saeco 4 wheelweights and linotype if such a recipe exists.
    Actually I would appreciate any recipes for Lyman number 2 that utilizes the stuff I have.
    Thanks in advance!
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    Lyman #2 is the recipe in percentages for what it is.
    You may need to do a little math for what you've got to work with.

    The formulations are in the Lyman cast book.
    You might also be interested in the other alloys they have: Lyman #1 and #3.

    If you not needing hard stuff for higher speeds-
    I'd go on the soft side and conserve the expensive/valuable 'goodies'.
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    Pure lead contains no arsenic. Its been removed by law.

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    #2 alloy contains 90% lead, 5% antimony and 5% tin.

    Given COWs only contain 2 - 3% antimony I never could figure out how 9 1/2 lbs of COWWs plus 1/2 lb of tin could make that alloy.

    I have used quite a bit of #2 alloy made with the linotype, solder and lead formula. That one makes a very good alloy that gives AC'd bullets a 22- 23 BHN after 10 - 14 days aging.
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    I use Larrys mixture.
    9 lbs COWWs + 1 lb 50/50 bar solder.
    Check this site out for alloy recipes.

    http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletAlloy.htm

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    As Larry says, "#2 alloy contains 90% lead, 5% antimony and 5% tin"

    The thing is, you can't mix a precise percentage (like 90-5-5) from your WW alloy, mostly because you don't know precisely what it is. Even Lino can vary. Do you require a precise percentage? If not, I would just use 3 parts WW & 1 part Lino and call it good.
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    9 pounds WW & 1 pound Bar Solder? = What BHN.

    50/50 Tin-Lead Bar Solder . WW & Bar solder- What would the BHN be? I have no idea?

    Lyman thinks BHN of 15?

    From Rotometals-
    Basic Rules for Harding Lead-
    For every 1% additional tin, Brinell hardness increases 0.3.
    For every 1% additional antimony, Brinell hardness increases 0.9.
    For a simple equation,
    Brinell = 8.60 + ( 0.29 * Tin ) + ( 0.92 * Antimony )

    Just add some Rotometals Linotype. I put 2" of the bar in a Lee 10 pound pot. No idea what the BHN is.
    Last edited by 243winxb; 09-30-2022 at 06:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dale2242 View Post
    I use Larrys mixture.
    9 lbs COWWs + 1 lb 50/50 bar solder.
    Check this site out for alloy recipes.

    http://www.lasc.us/CastBulletAlloy.htm
    Clip-on wheel weight .5 tin , 2% antimony, 97.5 lead BHN 11 or 12
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    Another good source for alloy information. My standard casting alloy is #8 from this list. I cut it 50/50 with pure for pistol bullets.
    http://www.lasc.us/SuperHard.htm

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    There are spreadsheets that calculate hardness according to alloy content available for download that will answer all your questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscra112 View Post
    There are spreadsheets that calculate hardness according to alloy content available for download that will answer all your questions.
    Where can I locate these spreadsheets?
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    Sent you a P/M.
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    I use 'Bumpo's' alloy calculator from this site. I have sent several alloys in to bne for testing, everyone came back ' on the money'. I have come to trust my raw materials and the calculator. hc18flyer

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    yes download and save Bumpos calculator very handey using that for lyman #2 shows
    about 5% tin and 5% antimony using 5lbs wheelweights and .25 lb tin and 1.6 lbs lino

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    I received the lead alloy spreadsheet and put it to good use for making up Lyman #2 from the alloys I have on hand!
    Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.��
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuz View Post
    I received the lead alloy spreadsheet and put it to good use for making up Lyman #2 from the alloys I have on hand!
    Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.��
    yeah the spread sheet it kinda cool the way you can vary all the amounts even put in a cost per bullet

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    My formula for #2? 5lbs ww to 1lb lino.
    I have never leaded a barrel in 40 years.
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    You may not have leaded a barrel but that is not even remotely close to Lyman #2!

    1.08% 4.50% 0.21% 0.00% 0.00% 94.2% Is what you have.
    5.00% 5.00% 90.0% Is Lyman #2

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    If anyone is interested in ... Simple
    A good alloy for handgun and in hunting rifle boolits is

    50-50 mix of COWW and soft scrap lead . I have never tested BHN but it might be 8 or 9 .
    it is not hard and I use it for all my cast boolits .

    For decades I had a free unlimited source of wheel weights and cast everything from COWW , but 8 years ago he retired from the tire business and my supply stopped . I had a lot of scrap lead from contractors in the building construction business . So I read here where 50-50 COWW and lead was good . I cast ingots from each and when I fill my pot put one of each in the pot along with a little linotype for tin for easier casting .

    Not complicated ... but if you aren't into advanced math , calculus and spread sheets and all that heavy duty thinking ... it works like a old New Orleans Voo-Doo woman's black magic charm .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickf1985 View Post
    You may not have leaded a barrel but that is not even remotely close to Lyman #2!

    1.08% 4.50% 0.21% 0.00% 0.00% 94.2% Is what you have.
    5.00% 5.00% 90.0% Is Lyman #2
    So it is HARDER than #2?
    Not sure what those numbers mean.
    Can you explain?
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