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Thread: 43 Mauser barrel over heated

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscra112 View Post
    Not being a black-powder shooter, I'm totally ignorant of this heating issue. Only BP gun I've shot much is a Ruger Old Army. Six rounds quick, than five minutes to reload. I've never noticed that the gun got particularly hot.
    yeah cap guns dont seem to be a huge problem - most of the heat goes out the end - but back to the point - -it seems to not take much heat to get enough distortion in some guns to move point of impact - "walking on the target" -

    The old Schuetzen men used to fire 100 rounds per match. How did they cope?

    just guessin here - smallish calibres (32/40 was popular - yes?) - good solid barrel - slow shot cadence - did they clean between shots?

    How did the soldiers using the 71/84 cope?
    how often did they rattle off more than ten to fifteen in an engagement? - were gloves part of their kit? - if it was me out there - first lull in proceedings I reckon I pour a cup of water down ole betsy's throat to clean and cool for the next round

    legend has it the barrels of Nelson Story's men got red hot ( a figure of speech maybe?) plonking 50/70 rounds into indians .

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    Legend has it the buffalo hunters used to pee down their barrels. Was politely put that they did it to clean, but . . . . . . .?
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    A good question. Hand guards?

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    Thanks guys. Jesus loves you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobeyond View Post
    Is it the fouling? Do you clean every shot. I need to make my 71 hunter, free float.
    I’ve had it do five shots as is. Or three shots at 100 or 25. I’m not all that consistent in the making of ammo, but like consistent grouping. Some of it seems like luck, but I have to go back and see what I did and repeat that! Spent a lot of time cleaning bore, a lot of time loading cartridges with a lot of all over the place but on paper. That is good but not very fulfilling. Time to repeat the best loads.
    The design is flawed. Germans accepted it knowing full well the foreend impingement, thin stock and the bolt handle as the locking lug would cause inconsistency. Use 1f or 1.5f to avoid the "bannana" effect. Shoot slow and you'll be happy

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    I suspect that this led to the invention of handguards!

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    Remember that the military minds that were buying these Mausers weren't far removed from the smoothbore muzzleloader stage, where tactics had evolved into masses of men firing a volley or two at each other, then charging through the smoke with bayonets fixed. Heating of the barrels was thus not an issue.

    Ever wonder why military uniforms of the age were so brightly colored?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscra112 View Post
    Remember that the military minds that were buying these Mausers weren't far removed from the smoothbore muzzleloader stage, where tactics had evolved into masses of men firing a volley or two at each other, then charging through the smoke with bayonets fixed. Heating of the barrels was thus not an issue.

    Ever wonder why military uniforms of the age were so brightly colored?

    military stupidity! nice bright colour tunic then draw a big white X across the front with two belts - all is missing is the arrow that says shoot here
    Then line em up in an open paddock at fourty yards and volley fire into the ranks
    If you can think of anything dumber ....I'll wait.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
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GC Gas Check