I have a lot of trimmers. The best bang for your buck is the Lee press mounted all in one trimmer with an electric screw driver on top. Keep the chamfer/debur parts clean and they do the trick.
Interesting, this is the first time I've ever heard of a RCBS X die. In looking at the instructions, it appears to have a special mandrel that has a step on it that mechanically blocks the case neck from stretching. It is a very neat looking design, and it makes me wonder why it's never talked about. It appears to have no drawbacks and a lot of positives over a standard expander ball die. The price is comparable. It makes me wonder why RCBS still makes their standard sizing dies. Why not ship the X sizer with every set?
I’ve been using these. He calls them the WCT… worlds cheapest trimmer. They are pretty cheap, and once the depth is set, they do work well. With his prices, I bought them in sizes for all of the bottlenecks that I do. They are cartridge specific, so not changing depth setting…
If I have one complaint about them, it would be that they leave a burnishing on the brass, from spinning.
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For any of the trimmers that use an end mill as the cutter, replacing the factory high speed steel end mill with a carbide end mill vastly reduces (possibly eliminates) the need for inside/outside chamfering. Carbide leaves a much cleaner case mouth.
Around 2008 I bought 3000 pieces of surplus military 5.56 brass. I already had a paper grocery bag full that needed processing as well. Of course, it had been fired in automatic weapons and left in the weather until it was all dark brown. That was my introduction to citric acid, the miracle worker for weathered brass. After it was sized and polished I think I tried every trimmer I could find short of the RCBS and Giraud out there at the time. I tried the Lee, Possum Hollow, Forster (which I already had for other calibers) and finally the WFT. I got it shortly before the WFT2 came out, which would be my preference over the single caliber WFT. Of all that I tried the WFT was the most productive and my favorite until I got a Dillon RT1200.
I set the Dillon RT1200 up on a 650 toolhead with two other dies (FL size before going to the trimmer and neck expansion after the trimmer) and it gives me ready to load ammo. I do have to run it through the polisher after trimming to get the alcohol/lanolin case lube off but other than that, nothing else is required. The carbide cutter in the RT1200 leaves a very clean case mouth unlike the other trimmers.
The RCBS X dies seem to work well. I bought a set for my 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser cartridges and they've performed as advertised. One of my Swedes is a nice original; the other is a hand built 6.5x55 hunting rifle built on a Mauser 98 action. I think the hunting rifle loses a small amount of accuracy with the X die but it's still a sub-moa rifle.
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Trimmers that index off the shoulder work great as long as all the cases are full length sized prior. I have the FA universal trimmer and the world's cheapest trimmer for 300 blackout. They both work the exact same and one is no more precise than the other.
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It's not trash, it's the best reasonably priced case trimmer I've used. The only other one I'd rather have is the Giraud. I suppose dirt gets inside the die, so what? Blades do not dull fast. Mines still going fine. I've never even heard of anyone dulling one. You don't really handle the drill, it just sits there. All you do is pull the trigger.
I have the original WFT (little crow) for 30/30 someplace. Worked fine. Haven't seen it for several years.
Whatever!
First off, I own a World's Best Trimmer, but it's only for a single caliber, 223 in my case. It's okay. For one caliber.
My new favorite trimmer, for certain calibers, is the Lyman.
My old reliable is the Forster. It always works.
My mod is to add an adapter that lets me use a right angle battery drill to power the thing and lose the crank.
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I used and still have a Lyman Universal with the drill attachment. It is slower than the WFT. With the Lyman, you load it into the trimmer, lock it, then rotate forward, and trigger the drill. With the WFT, chuck into the drill and keep the trigger pulled. Feed it brass by hand. It's easily 3 times faster, if not more.
I would reload .223 more if i had a match rifle. Just as with my 9mm, i shoot ball ammo through my AR's.
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I bought lee quick trim dies several years ago.
Yes the cutting edges get dull fast. Plus it is a bit of a pain to screw the holder off and tighten for each piece of brass.
I just bought a WCT in .30-30 and ran 20 pieces of brass through it.
Most it barely touched but I would expect that most were once fired and would not need much.
2 out of the 20 cut deeper. One pulled up a burr with the cutter and I could not hold it. So I simple switched the drill into reverse and fixed it. No sweat no hassle.
Then spent maybe 4 minutes with a lyman chamfering tool working the insides mostly with just a touch on the outside. Was not a long hard miserable process at all. And now I know I have 20 pieces of brass of uniform length ready to prime and load.
For the price, seems like a win - win solution.
Right now I am not shooting a lot of centerfire bottleneck ammo so I do not know if I will be buying more in the near future or not.
But I am happy with the one I got.
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For volume trimming I like the honey badger trimmer adaptor to bosch router set-up on one of my progressive presses with a case feeder. Use spray lanolin/alcohol mix and you can take that trimming mountain and make it into a mole hill. The powderful router never bogs down and you can run the press at least as fast as you can while loading or faster. Only downside is they don't have trim dies for every cartridge. I wet tumble the cases afterwards with pins and that seems to remove any sharp edge left by the carbide endmill. For smaller volumes of cases I used either a lyman or forster trimmer hooked up to a drill.
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BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
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