I get frustrated trying to figure out what gun movie characters or using. It seems their hands are always covering the action and the director only allows a second to see it. I was watching the old movie, A GHOST IN THE DARKNESS with Val Kilmer recently and he was loading a bolt action rifle but the shot of him loading was so short I just could not tell what the rifle was. Have you seen the movie?
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Hollywood guns are sometimes highly modified to fire blanks etc. In highly accurate movies a real authentic piece can be in for close-ups. Then when being fired, it could be substituted with the modified rig. Such as a shorter bolt for the blanks etc. They try to keep things generic when it comes to ammo. Example several unrelated arms with several calibers firing one blank that fits all.
When I'm keen on something I want to see up close. I record everything and can freeze frame when I want a closer look.
“You should tell someone what you know. There should be a history, so that men can learn from it.
He smiled. “Men do not learn from history. Each generation believes itself brighter than the last, each believes it can survive the mistakes of the older ones. Each discovers each old thing and they throw up their hands and say ‘See! Look what I have found! Look upon what I know!’ And each believes it is something new.
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I remember a discussion some years back that included an ejector rod housing on a double action revolver. The stuff they do in movies!
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I remember reading that Patterson used a Lee Speed Sporting Rifle.....whatever that is.
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A GUN THAT'S COCKED AND UNLOADED AIN'T GOOD FOR NUTHIN'........... ROOSTER COGBURN
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2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
– Amber Veal
"The Highest form of ignorance is when your reject something you don't know anything about".
- Wayne Dyer
as a registered contributor to imfdb I try to be as accurate as possible when I contribute information about any guns I describe used in film, and I never try to provide information on something I'm not 100 percent sure of, but sometimes ive found mistakes that have been made on the site.
but it is probably the premier web site dedicated to guns and weapons in movies and tv
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Main_Page
It was never hard to figure out the pistols that the cowboys used to shoot in the westerns that we used to watch as kids as they chased the outlaws on horseback . . . Roy Rogers, Hopalong Cassidy, Cisco Kid, etc. . . . . . they were all armed with those pistols that never had to be reloaded!
Many of the old western will have guns that are newer than the period the movie is set in.
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Ah, the Remington Reloadless. Not accurate on the model, but the name flows.It was never hard to figure out the pistols that the cowboys used to shoot in the westerns that we used to watch as kids as they chased the outlaws on horseback . . . Roy Rogers, Hopalong Cassidy, Cisco Kid, etc. . . . . . they were all armed with those pistols that never had to be reloaded!
They could afford the big roll of caps!It was never hard to figure out the pistols that the cowboys used to shoot in the westerns that we used to watch as kids as they chased the outlaws on horseback . . . Roy Rogers, Hopalong Cassidy, Cisco Kid, etc. . . . . . they were all armed with those pistols that never had to be reloaded!
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These sites that M-Techs links to are excellant for finding out what firearms were used in a movie .
I saved them on computer and wrote them down on index card ...
So many movie guns , so many questions ...
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A Lee Speed in 303 for the first lion. This was a commercial hunting gun made on the SMLE pattern.
If I were trying to kill a grown African male lion, I would use something a bit bigger than a .303. In his book, African Rifles and Cartridges, John Taylor said they are very tough to kill, and they can kill you even after being shot.
A GUN THAT'S COCKED AND UNLOADED AIN'T GOOD FOR NUTHIN'........... ROOSTER COGBURN
Think about their camps. Bedrolls, fire irons, skillet, coffee pot. I want some of those saddle bags.It was never hard to figure out the pistols that the cowboys used to shoot in the westerns that we used to watch as kids as they chased the outlaws on horseback . . . Roy Rogers, Hopalong Cassidy, Cisco Kid, etc. . . . . . they were all armed with those pistols that never had to be reloaded!
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John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"
Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!
I only watch movies to be entertained, I never expect them to be accurate as to reality.
On the occasions I have, I was always disappointed.
especially a known man eater.
but hey, it's a movie.
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The movie is loosely based on actual events and the 303 is correct.
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Although arguably a pair of history’s most fearsome predators, the Tsavo Man-Eaters were not the evil spirits many thought they were and they eventually met their fate at Patterson’s hand. But they didn’t go quietly or with ease. The first of the two man-eaters he killed by firing both barrels of his 12-gauge smooth-bore—loaded with slugs—into the lion’s shoulder. The second, though, took a great deal more to finish. “I accordingly waited until he got quite close—about 20 yards away—and then fired my .303 at his chest. I heard the bullet strike him, but unfortunately it had no knockdown effect, for with a fierce growl he turned and made off with great long bounds. Before he disappeared from sight, however, I managed to have three more shots at him from the magazine rifle, and another growl told me that the last of these had also taken effect.”
Pursuing, Patterson came face-to-face with the wounded cat. “I at once took careful aim and fired. Instantly he sprang out and made a most determined charge down on us. I fired again and knocked him over; but in a second he was up once more and coming for me as fast as he could in his crippled condition. A third shot had no apparent effect.” Scaling a tree, Patterson grabbed a Martini-Henry carbine from his gun-bearer and fired again, downing the cat. “Rather foolishly, I at once scrambled down from the tree and walked up towards him. To my surprise and no little alarm he jumped up and attempted another charge. This time, however, a Martini bullet in the chest and another in the head finished him for good and all; he dropped in his tracks not five yards away from me, and died gamely, biting savagely at a branch which had fallen to the ground.” When they examined the animal, they found no less than six rounds in it, including a slug Patterson had fired at it 10 days before
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2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
– Amber Veal
"The Highest form of ignorance is when your reject something you don't know anything about".
- Wayne Dyer
I was trying to ID a firearm recently seen in a movie and thought of this old thread.
see Post #8 above.
thanks farmbif
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