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ID:	302814Hey guys so I came in to possession of some old casting/ reloading stuff that I donít know a whole lot about and everyone I have asked has told me this is where I need to come for answers. Really looking for any info and a value on it, Iíve had some offers but seem to be pretty low to me. Appreciate any info.Click image for larger version. 

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    Sorry but uploading the pics was very confusing for me, not sure what happened.

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    Welcome to the forum. It gets understandably tricky, there is a lot of nice stuff there in apparently good condition, Ill take a stab at it and others will come along and correct me for what i get wrong. Some things my be rare or highly desired driving the price up, some things are only of value to those who like/collect the older stuff as it is not the "modern" standard

    My estimated prices-
    Press- $75~100 maybe more as it is a Hollywood, presses are tricky as they cost a lot to ship if you cant get a local sale
    Powder measure- $60-80 Again a Hollywood so potentially a bit more
    Red Lyman sizer $75 all day, they show up on evilbay into the $100~150 range
    Moulds- Single cavity $30 Double Cavity $50~60 or so The Hollow point Mould (the one with the thru groove) could bring $50-100 depending if you can find the wooden knob pin. The #s on the side (ie 429303 in the one) is the info most folks want to know
    Mould handles $15~25, for the molds already on handles up the price accordingly
    The case trimmer is interesting, not a modern version, i think its a GT Smiley, value would depend on if you have any of the accessories for it so $50-100 range less if that's all there is
    Dies $5-10 each depending on condition, better if you can put together sets $30-50
    Shell holders are unique to the press, $10 or so each, better to package them as a group or add them to the press and up the price
    For the bullets i would look for something between scrap lead weight prices and "factory" lead bullets of similar types and price accordingly.
    Last edited by metricmonkeywrench; 08-03-2022 at 08:43 AM.

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    Thank you for the info will keep researching and waiting for others to chime in

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    That's a lot of stuff, metricmonkeywrench gave you reasonable numbers, if this were 3 years ago, but today, those numbers seem a little high IMHO. We have entered new times, and while supplies are high priced, that is if you can find them, that fact is discouraging new shooters from starting to reload and also has discouraged many of us old reloaders to seek out more tooling, because who knows when market for supplies will normalize? so less buyers for old tooling. Also, being that it's old tooling, is less desired by the younger crowd. I suspect that is why you are getting lowball offers. If you want info from us, other than price, I'd make a separate thread for each of those items, with more than one photo, photos at different angles, and clear closeups of any markings.

    Lastly, my opinion about the molds. Some Lyman/Ideal molds are rare and collectable. So one might bring $200 on ebay, but the common ones are more like $20 to 25.
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    I think the guys have given you pretty good info. I would add I think Hollywood made two presses like that one. One was mostly aluminum while the other steel. At first glance they look the same. The all steel will bring about twice as much. Prices on this stuff fluctuate a lot as the guys have said. If your not in a hurry, wait. I think you have a piece or two of Belding & Mull, a bullet seater. The base is missing. The hollow point for a mold is missing. Dies, molds etc need to be grouped in sets and identified or any numbers clearly stated and photo'd so buyers can see what their getting. Also condition, like molds. Treat them gently as dings etc detract greatly. You have a boat load of good bullets also. I'm not sure if on-line sales would work. There are heavy. Limit packs to about 65 pounds. Maybe you can find a club local and a buyer there. Maybe put up a bullitin board note or local Facebook/craislist. I think yu have several $100 worth. A lot. Real shame to scrap them. Maybe post here. good luck

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    I think you kind of need to separate some of that stuff into reloading equipment and antique equipment. The Hollywood stuff is probably worth more as antiques than it is as actual usable equipment even though it probably still works just fine. Same with the pistol dies since nowadays you can buy carbide dies from RCBS at really good prices, No lube needed and will last forever. The rifle dies will have to be very closely checked since lube is definitely needed and they may or may not have been well taken care of or they may have been abused. Bullets are bullets, they always have a market. And if they are as old as everything else they will not be the super hard commercial ones on the market today so they will be real good bullets.
    Be very careful about talking about what prices to get and all that on here! I got in trouble for doing just this very thing. I forget what it was called but there is something in the rules about it. You need to get your 30 posts in and then you can sell the stuff in the S&S section.

    I went back in my history and found it, It is called a feeler infraction. You now know what the stuff is worth so just hang onto those thoughts and wait till you can offer it up for sale.
    Last edited by Rickf1985; 08-03-2022 at 10:41 PM.

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    For your big stuff. The Hollywood Sr steel press - look for $200-500- very much depending on who wants it - collectors will pay more. Shoot some oil on it so it moves easily and add another $100! The Belding and Mull powder measure - if it is complete and working look for $75-125 - they are being made again. The Lyman lube sizer - check eBay but they typically go for $50-100.

    Molds very much depend on the specific mold and it's availability. Many of the old Lyman molds are no longer produced by Lyman and have some greater demand. In other words you need to research each mold and deal with each one separately. You have a hollow point mold - do you have the hollow point pin? If not one can be made.

    Again the reloading dies, it very much depends on each one and their condition. Rusty, grungy stuff sells much more poorly than polished and working stuff.

    The real issue is how willing are you to research every item and get a reasonable value? Or do you want to simply pass on the collection to someone who will?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickf1985 View Post
    I think you kind of need to separate some of that stuff into reloading equipment and antique equipment. The Hollywood stuff is probably worth more as antiques than it is as actual usable equipment even though it probably still works just fine. Same with the pistol dies since nowadays you can buy carbide dies from RCBS at really good prices, No lube needed and will last forever. The rifle dies will have to be very closely checked since lube is definitely needed and they may or may not have been well taken care of or they may have been abused. Bullets are bullets, they always have a market. And if they are as old as everything else they will not be the super hard commercial ones on the market today so they will be real good bullets.
    Be very careful about talking about what prices to get and all that on here! I got in trouble for doing just this very thing. I forget what it was called but there is something in the rules about it. You need to get your 30 posts in and then you can sell the stuff in the S&S section.

    I went back in my history and found it, It is called a feeler infraction. You now know what the stuff is worth so just hang onto those thoughts and wait till you can offer it up for sale.
    That is correct. It's listed as #1 in the Terms of Service (T.O.S.) that everyone agrees to when they sign on to the forums. It's in the banners at the top of every page.

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    Finding out the name of each item or the size/model number on each mold will be the first step. Research sold prices for that item on Ebay or this forum. Magnet will tell you if the press is aluminum or not.

    Prices do fluctuate. Finding that range based on prior sales will give you a pretty good idea of the price range to expect.

    Molds can be weird. One that is almost the same as another can have a great deal more value. Some really well thought of "classic" bullet designs come from molds no longer in production. Then to there is the cool factor to some of those old style molds.

    If you can't find the hollow point pin for the Lyman mold give Lyman a call. Provide them with the mold numbers. I think you can purchase a new one. I know when I dropped the pin in the molten lead and scorched the handle badly I just ordered a replacement handle. I could have made a handle but buying it was not expensive and got it done. Was a loaned mold too. Needed to go back in as good of condition as it came to me in.

    Dies are really only useful as a set to reload a caliber. Individual dies are pretty much useless with the exception of a few odd ones. Such as a small base die for auto loader rifle etc. So clean and sort the dies into sets by caliber. I have bought a lot of used 2 die sets for common calibers at $25 typically Pacific or Herters dies. Good enough to get someone started reloading. The higher end dies command a higher price. Won't know what you have for die sets until you go through and sort them.

    You have the same problem one has when finding a big box of pewter. Sometimes the pewter is worth way more as an object than it is as tin for casting. Looking all that stuff up and figuring out values so as to get fair price is work and a pain. On the other hand when a mold turns out to be worth $200 instead of $20 that is a nice payoff on the work. Worst outcome you can sell it and know the price you are getting suits the value and your willingness, if any, to discount it to make a sale.
    Last edited by RogerDat; 08-10-2022 at 11:28 AM.
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    Wow, The Holleywood press (if is steel) will go for 400$ The powder measure is as accurate as they come 200$ I can not see the#s on the molds. But I would guess they are collectable.Clean it all up and expect more.
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    Keep it ... with that amount of "Good Stuff" it's time for you to take up reloading .

    You will have a hard time finding a market ... most of us have all our equipment and not about to pay top dollar for the old stuff ... the new guy's want new stuff and finding " Old Tool Collector's" who might pay a decent price for a rare old press is like finding Unicorn's .

    It's most value would be to you and your new hobby ... Do you shoot !
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    I purchased a large and, as I discovered, neglected-by-family reloader's estate. From experience - clean it up and it will sell.

    Everything you have is useful and saleable - it just "looks" old. The hard part, and it really is not that hard, is putting in the time and effort to clean it up. A brass brush, some solvent, and a polishing wheel will make stuff shine like new again.

    People will come with their "ten cents on the dollar" Flea Market mentality, especially if they believe they can make the case that it is worn out, which is isn't. Set an offered price that satisfies YOU. A buyer will come. It might take a little while.

    Take to heart the adage, "Buy low, sell high, and don't forget what you are doing in the meantime." I had storage cost eating into my pocket. I chose to offer at or about 67% of "retail new" (when that was decipherable). I moved stuff quickly in that range - good stuff, very good stuff, old stuff cleaned up, high end stuff too, stuff people were happy to buy. If you bought it, then you already had a motivation and have an expectation. In the current market supply is low and demand is high.

    You have come to the right place to ask for information. Do your research. You have a lot of good stuff there that just looks old. Clean it up. Also, advertised as "Old School" infers "past its time". We ALL talk about and agree that reloading equipment, if taken care of, will last more than one lifetime. Yours is that case in point.
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