MP HG 68 or Lee 452-200?

[Finster101]

That boolit works great for me over 4grains of Red Dot/Promo.

[alamogunr]

I'm a little late to this thread but I do understand the OP's reservations about delivery of an MP mold. I have to say that if anyone can get a mold to its' destination, it is Miha.
I have two MP H&G68 clone molds in 4 cavity and one of his first aluminum 6 cavity molds. The six cavity kicks out boolits that are a little out of round but size ok. I do have to say that I use the brass 4 cavity molds exclusively because they work so well.

[nueces5]

I'm a little late to this thread but I do understand the OP's reservations about delivery of an MP mold. I have to say that if anyone can get a mold to its' destination, it is Miha.
I have two MP H&G68 clone molds in 4 cavity and one of his first aluminum 6 cavity molds. The six cavity kicks out boolits that are a little out of round but size ok. I do have to say that I use the brass 4 cavity molds exclusively because they work so well.

Yes! Miha and Ups!
it was only held up in customs for a week, and that's not miha's or UPS's problem.
Happily it's already raining boolits on my reload bench

[nueces5]

That boolit works great for me over 4grains of Red Dot/Promo.

Have you ever measured speed?
the alliant page says that the red dot load for 200 grains of jwords is 4.5 grains
So since I can't get red dot, I'll most likely try to match the speed
I use a 1911 clone

[Forrest r]

More often than not it's having little to do with matching speeds. This is where pressures and more specifically short start pressures come into play.

3 different bullets
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Testing loads @ 50ft with a nm 1911/45acp rested with a reddot doing 5-shot groups. testing 4.0gr and 4.3gr of clays.
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As you can see the 4.0gr load was nothing more than blammo ammo. The 4.3gr load held +/- 1" groups with all 3 bullets tested. The squares on the target are 1" squares.
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The bullets are 2 vastly different 200gr bullets and the cramer 5f is the cramer version of a 200gr swc. It just happens to be a hollow base version of that bullet making it a 175gr swc.

[S.B.]

Speaking from experience the H&G molds ar definitely heavier(more tiering) than any aluminum Lees.
Steve

[alamogunr]

Speaking from experience the H&G molds ar definitely heavier(more tiering) than any aluminum Lees.
Steve

I have 2 of the MP four cavity clones of the H&G 68. I'm also 80 years old. It slows me down a little but well worth the output from the MP brass molds.

[Finster101]

Have you ever measured speed?
the alliant page says that the red dot load for 200 grains of jwords is 4.5 grains
So since I can't get red dot, I'll most likely try to match the speed
I use a 1911 clone

Sorry for not responding. I have come down with the virus that shall not be named. I do not have a chrony but, that load shoot to POA out of my Colt Officers model.

[nueces5]

Thank you all for your answers, very good development of Forrest loads.
From what they say, then I'm going to have to find the best load using the ladder method.

[fredj338]

I would have no real issue with the newer Lee 6cav. The alum is better & the design is better. I bought a 40/180 about 18m ago & its actually throwing really good bullets from the first go. I cant say that about some earlier molds of theirs. Though anything from Accurate is gtg. I cast mine with a Magma mold, also gtg.