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Thread: Long range hunter breaks down anti long range Hunter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundguy View Post
    I wasn't hammering..i was asking if he was anti short range hunting. He seemed to be pretty happy about the long range person beating down the short range person. Was an honest question.
    Anti short range hunting...... Seriously?
    And what I enjoyed about the video was how the guy who actually long range hunted could break down and explain stuff in depth. How he could take the guys argument,if we wanna call it that and go step by step what was wrong what was right how this really works his experience yadda yadda yadda yadda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfdog91 View Post
    Feigning surprise ? Really ? Such as? How have I acted suprised ?
    Like I've said before I'm not very surprised anymore with the comments my posts get. If I wanted eveyone to just agree with me I wouldn't post on these forums. I like to share and I like to learn.
    Keep commenting , your appreciated by me when you get some of these arm chair warriors stirred up . I laugh at a few myself HA -HA/Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfdog91 View Post
    And what I enjoyed about the video was how the guy who actually long range hunted could break down and explain stuff in depth.
    I did not watch the video. I'm allergic to bearded rambo stereotypes in camo. Mea culpa.

    Nobody can ever explain to me how taking long shots at animals

    1. without being reasonably sure of bullet placement
    2. without consideration to bullet construction and impact energy
    3. with no hope of a wounded follow up

    can ever being called hunting.

    Just call it like it is without pretending to be shy - it's using live animals for target practice.

    If rambo is shooting from so far, what exactly is the point of wearing camo ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal View Post
    The OP has a habit of posting about controversial subjects and then feigning surprise when the discussion doesn't go smoothly. I've no idea if it's done intentionally but he does it on multiple forums and has done it multiple times here. It's an easily identified pattern.
    I've picked up the same pattern.

    In the past, on other forums, I've called out several trolls that obviously don't even own a firearm.

    Hopefully the OP is not one of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 414gates View Post
    I did not watch the video. I'm allergic to bearded rambo stereotypes in camo. Mea culpa.

    Nobody can ever explain to me how taking long shots at animals

    1. without being reasonably sure of bullet placement
    2. without consideration to bullet construction and impact energy
    3. with no hope of a wounded follow up

    can ever being called hunting.

    Just call it like it is without pretending to be shy - it's using live animals for target practice.

    If rambo is shooting from so far, what exactly is the point of wearing camo ?
    He discussed every one of those points in detail
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    Quote Originally Posted by 414gates View Post
    I've picked up the same pattern.

    In the past, on other forums, I've called out several trolls that obviously don't even own a firearm.

    Hopefully the OP is not one of those.
    I'm up to 24 total lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfdog91 View Post
    He discussed every one of those points in detail
    Discuss the points in great detail, write entire volumes of encyclopedias, keep explaining till the rambo beard goes grey, it still comes down to using live animals for target practice.

    If you fancy using live animals for target practice, just call it hunting and it becomes legal.

    Does he perhaps explain why he needs camo while shooting from so far the animals can't even see him ?
    Last edited by 414gates; 06-28-2022 at 07:04 AM. Reason: addendum

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    Quote Originally Posted by 414gates View Post
    Discuss the points in great detail, write entire volumes of encyclopedias, keep explaining till the rambo beard goes grey, it still comes down to using live animals for target practice.

    If you fancy using live animals for target practice, just call it hunting and it becomes legal.

    Does he perhaps explain why he needs camo while shooting from so far the animals can't even see him ?
    Yes
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    414gates; I am sorry to hear about the things that you are allergic to, This is probably why no one can explain to "you" why people take long shots at animals. Because You don't Watch & You don't Listen. You just claimed the fame of not watching what this post is all about, So where is the ground-work for your negative comments? Just asking I'd like to learn how you do this without the experience of what is posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by versa-06 View Post
    414gates; I am sorry to hear about the things that you are allergic to, This is probably why no one can explain to "you" why people take long shots at animals. Because You don't Watch & You don't Listen. You just claimed the fame of not watching what this post is all about, So where is the ground-work for your negative comments? Just asking I'd like to learn how you do this without the experience of what is posted?
    No need for apology, thank you.

    Here's my ground work :

    1. can you place a kill shot
    2. will the bullet hold together with sufficient penetration
    3. can you find it if you wound it
    4. there is no such thing as long range hunting, only hunting.

    Posing in camo for Youtube and talking crap is not worth my time. I don't need to watch the video, the OP summed it up already in the first post. Refer point 4.

    If you like using live animals for target practice, or you approve of the concept, just say so, there are far more outrageous things that are socially acceptable today.

    I've got nothing against camo, I wear camo whenever I'm in the bush, and I don't shave too often, so I often have a beard. I'm still allergic to bearded rambo types in camo posing on Youtube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfdog91 View Post
    Yes
    Great. If you learned anything constructive, it's to your benefit.

    What is beneficial to you may be of no concern me, and vice versa.
    Last edited by 414gates; 06-28-2022 at 08:28 AM. Reason: Addendum

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    Here is one I'm not comfortable with.... How do you guarantee a follow up shot at a 1/4 mile away? How do you then track a possibly wounded animal when the hike may take you hours to get there. I watched a video of a guy shooting a big sheep from one mountain to another mountain. No joke... Took 4 hours to hike down and up... Seems excessive to me..inhumane in case of a wound shot..you can't follow up or get over to humane kill the animal without hours of suffering... At that range..on a treed mountain..5 foot move could be total cover... Hated watching that video.

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    I don't shoot anything over 300 yards. I am not set up nor am I qualified. With cast that # comes down depending on bore size & boolit weight. Long range or short sometimes a bad hit just happens. Sometimes even a short shot may require hours of tracking for the hunter & anguish for an animal. Anyone who likes to see an animal suffer has issues that need to be dealt with, but things happen. When you catch a fish, do you put it out of it's misery, or throw it in a cooler & let it die slowly? Or maybe let it die on a stringer? When a Feline or K-9 kills a deer or an elk is it Quick? Just pointing out where some things really stand when we look at the big picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundguy View Post
    Here is one I'm not comfortable with.... How do you guarantee a follow up shot at a 1/4 mile away? How do you then track a possibly wounded animal when the hike may take you hours to get there. I watched a video of a guy shooting a big sheep from one mountain to another mountain. No joke... Took 4 hours to hike down and up... Seems excessive to me..inhumane in case of a wound shot..you can't follow up or get over to humane kill the animal without hours of suffering... At that range..on a treed mountain..5 foot move could be total cover... Hated watching that video.
    It doesn't matter if it's 500 yards or 50 yards. That's mountain hunting. Even in our measly black hills, you could shoot an animal 50 yards away, and it could make one good bound across a valley turning a 100 yard recovery into a mile uphill hike. 1/4 mile isn't that far, 440 yards. If you aren't comfortable with that, you may as well not bother with bighorn sheep unless you are a bow hunter. You can blow $300 a year in preference points in numerous states and you MIGHT draw a tag sometime in your life. If you can't practice long range shots with that kind of commitment, you probably aren't willing to become physically fit enough to handle it either. Of course with money, anything is possible.

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    I much prefer large game at close range with a double gun...and glad is optional..i like express sights.. And short yardage is my preference.

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    I like my hunting up close and personal. Measured in feet is good. HOWEVER!!!! I have shot enough long range competition and just for the fun of doing it and learning how that IF I wanted to take an animal at 400-800 yards, still owned my long range rifle and was in practice, I would have neither problem nor difficulty doing so. But TO ME, that isn't hunting. For me it would be calculated killing. Having said that I have no problem with those who do it, if they're capable. It just ain't for me.

    My longest shot on a critter is a lasered 480 yards. Not all that far except that it was a crow, shot in the head with a 300 Win. Mag. That deserves a brief explanation. The day before we, the boy who worked on the farm for us and I, had sighted in my rifle for dead on at 500 lasered yards. That Sunday after church we went out to have some fun and the aforementioned crow landed on my range just in front of the target frame. Jason put the range finder on it and I fired. Crow collapsed. The head shot was luck, the crow was facing us but hitting it? No way that was luck. With that rifle sub 3 inch groups were as common as dirt at 500 yards....and that was over 30 years ago.
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    Have you ever noticed among all the successful shot stories in a long range hunting thread you never one time see a post about a poor shot that resulted in a wounded but unrecovered animal?

    I guess those people don't ever post in any thread.

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    I beg to differ, I have read several posts where hunters admit a bad shot, short & long, & tracked for hours to locate animal & or lost it completely. If you are an avid hunter you will experience a less than perfect scenario.

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    The one deer I shot and never found was shot under 50 yards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gibson View Post
    The one deer I shot and never found was shot under 50 yards
    The same here. Looked for it for two days. Found it's skull and spine the following spring after a flood.

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