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    New All Weather Marlin 45-70. Anyone buy or shoot one?

    I was in a lgs yesterday and a guy laid out $1,200 or so for one. He let me pick it up and i thought it was very light. Well made, dark laminated wood looked good and the peep sight was nice. But...short barrel for a woods gun and did i mention light with no porting? Guy never shot one and was excited and my only comment after saying how nice it was " you got a recoil pad" and "you might want to wear earplugs under your muffs".
    That thing is going to hurt.
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    Being so light- Yeah, it's going to have a bite.
    I've got an older octagon barrel .45-70 CB.
    Even with mid range loads, it took me a little while to figure out which end is more dangerous than the other.
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    They get a lot heavier when they are loaded. What size magazine tube did it have? Mine takes four rounds in the tube, but I’ve noticed they are producing them with tubes that go to the end of the barrel. The muzzle end must be heavy on them.

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    ive got an sbl marlin ,very nice shooting with loads kept to original levels .if i wanted a 458mag i'd buy one.

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    My brother has the original JM 1895 All-Weather in .45-70. We shot it once for groups at 100 yds and it was the most painful rifle I've ever shot. Made my eyeballs hurt. Bad groups as well.

    But, good enough for black bear hunting and the 50 yards from the tree stand to the bait barrel.
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    Fully stoked to it's capacity, that thing will bite ya! I stopped using jacketed and my cast at trap door levels take the sting out and still drops 'em fast. Still a handful but not as painful.

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    My son and I use my 1895 Marlin on feral hogs with a 300 gr Sierra over a home brew load. They act as if they hit a transparent wall - just thwack! and it’s all over, no matter how big the pigs are. I’ve never seen anything die so quickly.

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    I have a JM stamped 1895 SBL. Recoil is stout with Marlin-level loads, but I don't find it excessively uncomfortable or unmanageable. I don't shoot scads of heavy rounds through it in a single session, though.
    My Guide Gun in 375 Ruger with the muzzle weight installed is much more punishing. (The brake is effective on that rifle, but the blast it produces is impressive. Like a hot smack to the face.)

    Looks like Ruger has done right by Marlin. I was expecting that they would use Marlin's IP catalog to make new, clunky, Ruger-ized lever action designs, but they proved me wrong.
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    45-70 rounds can be built to bite for and aft as those of us that shoot them know. I have a Henry and an H&R Handi rifle so chambered. The Henry will fire a pretty stiff round without much discomfort, the Handi is best left to trapdoor level loads. Neither approach the level of recoil experienced with heavy 12ga slugs. Gp

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregLaROCHE View Post
    They get a lot heavier when they are loaded. What size magazine tube did it have? Mine takes four rounds in the tube, but I’ve noticed they are producing them with tubes that go to the end of the barrel. The muzzle end must be heavy on them.
    I don't remember how big the tube was but it was a factory rifle so whatever that is. My surprise in picking it up is that it seemed the same weight as a Win 94 3030.
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    I got rid of my 1895 Marlin 45/70 cause I decided my teeth fillings were more important me. Kept my H&R for hunting with a nice cushioned butt pad. A lot more fun.
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    The Ruger #1 45/70 carbine isn't any heavier and as long as one keeps it at Marlin loads or below it is fine to shoot. Trapdoor level loads are really nice. I don't see why one couldn't apply this logic to the new Marlin, it can't be THAT light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman View Post
    The Ruger #1 45/70 carbine isn't any heavier and as long as one keeps it at Marlin loads or below it is fine to shoot. Trapdoor level loads are really nice. I don't see why one couldn't apply this logic to the new Marlin, it can't be THAT light.
    Maybe the stock design has something to do with it? The angles might transmit more energy to the shooter on the Marlin.

    I know that my Henry Black rifle has less felt recoil than my Marlin 1894 with the same exact loads and the Henry being at least a pound lighter.
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