To determine accuracy with the handguns tested they were bench rested at 10 YARDS! WOW. Some of the guns tested were well into the 4 figure price range.
Elmer and Skeeter are weeping or spinning in their graves.
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To determine accuracy with the handguns tested they were bench rested at 10 YARDS! WOW. Some of the guns tested were well into the 4 figure price range.
Elmer and Skeeter are weeping or spinning in their graves.
Paper targets aren't your friends. They won't lie for you and they don't care if your feelings get hurt.
That's one of the reasons I gave up on all outdoor/gun rag mags these days. Articles like that. I read em' in the Barber Shop but, won't pay for that nonsense.
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10 yards is fine for pocket pistols. For full size handguns 25 yards should be the minimum with 50 yards preferred.
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Maybe the tester couldn’t shoot?
At ten yards, everyone becomes a skilled shooter, every gun is accurate, and the sorriest ammo groups tightly.Originally Posted by Bazoo
Not this guy here!
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Me and my old 686 have shot a couple of 1" fifty yard groups.(from the bags) By todays standards, that must be miraculous. I'd be kind of ashamed it I couldn't still bang out a couple inches even with my 65 year old eyes. jd
It seems that people who do almost nothing, often complain loudly when it's time to do it.
I can do better than an inch offhand at 10 yards. I should be in the magazines.
I was watching somebody shoot on youtube once, I thought: "that guy is pretty good!". Then I heard them say the target was 7 yds. The camera plays tricks on your eyes. I have never though of myself as a good shot, but I'm at least as good as that guy. I practice with my pocket guns at 15 yds, and my hunting pistols at 40 yds. I shoot off a stick at 40.
I think there are a lot of fine pistol shots, but few that also aspire to be gunwriters.
I seen on another forum that someone said basically, if y’all were as good as you say you are you’d be winning matches. I thought, the people that win matches also are people that enjoy competition and the games. I am neither, but I am a decent handgun shot. Now, could I win matches, no, because I don’t have the desire or drive for the competition part. I don’t have the discipline to push myself no matter how I feel. But I could likely hold my own against anyone if they came to my farm, and we had a friendly plinking match with nothing but an ice cold coke at stake.
Since Field and Stream and Outdoor Life started putting mountain bikes and rock climbers on the cover I have not taken them seriously.
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When I do shoot at 10-15 yards, it's at golf balls shooting offhand (which is actually a lot of fun)
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At ten yards I generally shoot at weed stalks with the single six, and shotshell at 15. Unless of course I shoot at wretched paper targets. I been on a load development kick lately though and ain’t plinked much.
Last edited by Bazoo; 05-22-2022 at 10:18 PM.
Most of my life, I shot my handguns for good groups and fine accuracy at 25 to 100 yards. I got pretty good at it with a couple of handguns in particular. BUT-- I'm actually pretty horrible at fast, close defensive shooting. Been kind of getting interested in it lately, and it looks like fun. jd
It seems that people who do almost nothing, often complain loudly when it's time to do it.
Probably an attempt to make the cupcakes think that they are accurate pistol shooters. Most of the monkeys at my range flinch so bad they cannot even come near a 30 yard target!
Old enough to know better, young enough to do it anyway!
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I would think that if they were testing for accuracy with a defensive handgun…..it would be from a Ransom Rest @ 25 yards. If a hunting handgun a minimum of 50 yards……preferably 100 yards. I test my hunting revolver loads @ 100 yards.
If a reliability test…..a different issue! memtb
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It's a trend I've observed over the last 20-25 years. I think it was Jeff Cooper who said, when referring to the M-16, "they reduced the caliber, moved the target closer.....and they call this progress?" Same thing has happened with handguns with the emphasis on self defense, center mass, rather than real accuracy.
I shot with a couple....cupcakes, I like that...lol!.....a few years ago and as we were setting up targets they all stopped at 5-10 yards from the bench, on my 100 yard range. There is no "7 yard line" on my range, it starts at 25. Anyway, even 30 years older than the cupcakes I was shooting better at 25 than they were at 5 yards and as good at 50. They've never asked to come out again and, my intent was not to dissuade them. Different strokes, I guess.
Yeah, Skeeter and Elmer are turning in their graves.
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Link to the article.
https://www.fieldandstream.com/guns/best-handguns/
Paper targets aren't your friends. They won't lie for you and they don't care if your feelings get hurt.
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