Are C&H swaging dies interchangeable with Herters?

[Martin Luber]

Swage O Matic



Thanks

[ReloaderFred]

No, the Swage-O-Matic press takes a proprietary set of dies.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[rolltide999]

I have both Herters presses and dies and Swag-O-Matic Press and dies. ReloaderFred is of course correct.

To be more specific:

1. CH dies seem slightly larger diameter, so CH dies will not work in Herters presses, but Herters dies will work in CH press.

2. Ejection punches seem to be the same length and interchangeable.

3. Nose punches have different internal threads, but you could use different bolts in the punch holders and make it work.

4. Although the Herters Super Bullet Maker press and the CH Swag-O-Matic parts look very similar (punch holders and die retainers), they are all different threads so their parts are not interchangeable. CH uses very unusual threads where Herters uses more standard 7/8x14 threads on press top and press ram.

5. While the "bottom" (ram) die seems interchangeable between Herters Super Bullet Maker Press and Herters 9 Ton Press, the Punch Holding arrangement in the "top" of the presses are entirely different. So Herters 9 Ton die sets are not useable at all with CH press or even other Herters presses. Of course the Herters die sets for reloading presses are entirely dissimilar from all of the above and require use in a Herters Reloading Press (or a shell holder adapter to use with other reloading presses.) So Herters made 3 fundamentally different types of swaging die sets depending on which press is used, only the ones for their Super Bullet Maker Press can be made easily useable with CH Swag-O Matic.

Conclusion:
You could probably make Herters Super Bullet Maker die sets work in the CH press with easy mod on punch holder (different bolt), the converse does not seem to be true. Although, the die diameters are so close, I believe I could use some emory cloth on the CH dies and make them work in the Herters Super Bullet Maker Press in short order if I had to, again with easy mod on punch holder (different bolt).