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    Anyone like some photos?

    This is what I saw at the store, behind the glass.

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    Something seemed...off, but the left handedness caught my eye. So, closer look...

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    The store clerk insisted the gun was functioning...and DID managed to get the trigger to reset, once. I talked them down to about half the asking price. Yes, that is one of the missing ram rods guides that fell off.

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    So, I took it to LAGS, and he began observing everything Bubba had done...and the list is long. Presented in no particular order, but numbered so LAGS can tell you what you're looking at.
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    And the ultimate end user with the original, Bubba'd rifle, which I'll contrast with the rebuilt marvel he will receive.

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    If you need more info about the pictures , just ask by number.
    That way I don't have to rag on the conditions

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    Updates.
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    Pictures 13 and 14 show the lock area of the stock and how I am filling it in so I can re inlet the lock properly.
    The lock area on the stock was inletted too big and too deep.
    So he ( bubba ) glued in several blocks of wood to support the lock.
    I took those blocks out.
    Now I sand and fit my block of wood so it slides in all the way.
    Then glue it in place with good bedding compound epoxy.
    Then inlet the lock like it needs to be.
    I have done this kind of Fix when I had an Italian rifle stock they didn't make parts for any more that I filled in the lock area and inletted a lock that was available.

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    And;
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    As promised, some other LAGS work;
    CZ 527M converted to a one of a kind pistol grip stock with spare magazine holder in the butt...the last victim of the previous marriage.
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    TC Renegade rescued;

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    You didn't mention the 5 round magazine that I extended to 10 rounds on that CZ

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    Man! It's a shame about that stock, looks like some really nice figured maple. If that parts set is what I think it is that's about 1000.00 dollars worth.

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    You are correct.
    This rifle looks like it was a Builders Kit that would have cost about $1,000 for just the parts.
    The lock and trigger are made by Long out of Denver.
    Those locks were one of the better ones back years ago.
    Now you see why it is so important to Save this rifle.

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    I've given up on such projects. If taken on for the owner then they rarely appreciate what you've done for them, if you repair it and try to resell it then no one wants it if they are enlightened as to it's original condition and I don't need to spend my time proving to myself that I can correct such calamities so therefore such messes are simply not worth anything IMHO.

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    Sometimes it's about the journey rather than the destination.

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    Most of the rifles that I rebuild.
    If I sell them,
    I sell them for the cost of parts that I used to restore them plus what I paid for the rifle.
    But then , I do this as a hobby not to make money or do it as a business.
    But my hobby has always paid for itself.
    I just love the guys that will offer you $100 for a Kibler rife in perfect condition.
    Just because it is a Kit.
    And kits are just junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGS View Post
    You didn't mention the 5 round magazine that I extended to 10 rounds on that CZ
    My bad, the one of a kind only ten round CZ527M magazine in the world. THAT survived and went to a needy member of my forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal View Post
    I've given up on such projects. If taken on for the owner then they rarely appreciate what you've done for them, if you repair it and try to resell it then no one wants it if they are enlightened as to it's original condition and I don't need to spend my time proving to myself that I can correct such calamities so therefore such messes are simply not worth anything IMHO.
    Trust me, amigo, I appreciate it VERY much. My son also appreciates it as this will be his once it is complete, and LAGS needs to make sure he signs it with a brand somewhere on the stock..."Rescued By LAGS" or something like that.

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    Today I bedded the block of wood into the lock area.
    I also bedded the area where the ram rod fits under the barrel so a full length ramrod can be used.
    I also drilled and tapped the lock in the correct spot for the lock mounting bolt.
    Now before I refinish the lock, I will fill in the old holes .
    The same will be done on the trigger where he drilled the holes in the wrong spots and very off center.
    The next step will be to fine inlet the lock area and remount the barrel tang now that there is wood for the screw to anchor into.
    The tang only had one screw in the tip of the tang that also went thru the stock into the trigger.
    You can see that in picture 12
    Once the tang is mounted correctly , then I can glass bed in the barrel into that over inletted barrel channel.

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    The biggest problem I see is that the lock is on the wrong side. About 35 years ago I made a left handed Hawkin for a customer, told him I had to look in a mirror while making it so it would come out right, or left as the case was. Every once in a while I get a job in where bubba worked on it first, most of the time that adds lots of time to the repair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGS View Post
    Most of the rifles that I rebuild.
    If I sell them,
    I sell them for the cost of parts that I used to restore them plus what I paid for the rifle.
    But then , I do this as a hobby not to make money or do it as a business.
    But my hobby has always paid for itself.
    I just love the guys that will offer you $100 for a Kibler rife in perfect condition.
    Just because it is a Kit.
    And kits are just junk.
    Fair enough. Your work looks fine and apparently it will be appreciated in this case. I've just had too many experiences with 'friends' who want a mess that resembles a hunk of rebar stuck to a chunk of wormy wood restored because it was 'Uncle Joe's favorite' and it got forgotten about in the garage for a couple of decades.
    Just, no.

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    Mr Taylor.
    You are right about the difficulty in inletting the lock on a left Handers.
    I have to go slow and keep looking to make sure I don't do it backwards.
    The only other Left Hand rifles I have ever done , was a pair of Savage 110s and I still have one that I need to finish the stock.
    You are also right about the difficulty in repairing a rifle with several Bubbaed areas.
    Like on this rifle.
    Normally , I inlet the barrel and tang.
    Then the lock and then the trigger.
    I can't do the repairs on the cracked forend and line up the barrel again because there is so much wood removed to get the height correct to the lock.
    So I chose to set the lock properly , then line the barrel up to the lock position.
    As you can see in pictures 5 &8.
    He had inletted the stock for a round barrel and Deep.
    That caused cracks along the thinner area where the hole for the ramrod is below the barrel.
    Then he laid in fiberglass cloth to bridge the cracks.
    I took all those repairs out.
    I will Full Glass Bed the barrel so it fits the stock perfect.
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