I don’t think there is a rifle more fun to shoot, and more of a pain to clean than the 9mm AR. The blowback action fills the receiver with carbon that mixes with any oil and bakes into coal. Sometimes it feels like I spend as much time fabricating scrapers from old brass and chiseling coal out of impossible nooks and crannies as I did shooting.
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Mine has been collecting dust for months. I should take it out soon.
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Yeah, but the fun outweighs the work to clean.......what a blast they are to shoot!!!! Just rip it apart and soak everything a few days when you have time.....if you really want to see dirty, slap a suppressor on it!!!!
Yes, the can does stack it up. Have you tried a little Carb cleaner with that red tube stuck in up and around there and a nylon brush?
Ed's Red by the quart, bronze toothbrushes, Choreboy, and the aforementioned cartridge brass scrapers. On the up side, the bore is squeaky clean.
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Try cleaning an HK sometime.
Nice thing about an AR is its guts are pretty accessible. I'd be inclined to run a blowback version pretty wet with CLP so I'd be wiping sludge rather than chiseling out baby diamonds.
My Ruger PCC is not nearly so easy to get into - the good news is it doesn't appear to be fussy. I've concluded that carbon will only deposit in large amounts in places where there is no moving part shoving it away. Yes, the weight of your carbine may gradually increase as carbon builds up in the "dead spaces", but stoppage due to excessive crud seems like it'll be a long way off - think of all the totally functional Nylon 66's and 10/22's that have probably NEVER been apart.
If a chisel is needed, best thing I've found for the task is to strip the end off some solid core copper wire, pound it flat, and clip the end to whatever shape is desired.
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You think that's dirty? Try suppressed, it's double the work cleaning the gun & your face...Originally Posted by imashooter2
I don’t think there is a rifle more fun to shoot, and more of a pain to clean than the 9mm AR. The blowback action fills the receiver with carbon that mixes with any oil and bakes into coal. Sometimes it feels like I spend as much time fabricating scrapers from old brass and chiseling coal out of impossible nooks and crannies as I did shooting.
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This sounds like a silly thing to say, but I feel that converting an AR into a 9mm carbine seems to be more work that it is worth to accomplish. You basically have to start from scratch with a great deal of proprietary parts to get to something with a familiar form factor, with a lot less of the compatibility that the AR platform strives for. It's not my speed, personally.
they do look really cool, though!
What a silly thing to say!
Buy one, put a dot on it and take it to a falling steel plate match. It might just become your speed.
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I have a 9mm AR, but it's gas operated. Doesn't get too dirty, I'm shooting pc boolits with it. I had a Tec-9 pistol years ago. 9mm blow back. Fun gun to shoot, very accurate, and it came apart easily making it easy to clean. It wasn't much good for anything but a range toy, so I sent it down the road.
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EXACTLY!! My 9mm AR is a ton of fun.What a silly thing to say!
Buy one, put a dot on it and take it to a falling steel plate match. It might just become your speed.
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I'm not against a 9mm carbine at all, but one built from an AR seems more trouble than it's worth. Might as well get a 9mm carbine that was built from the ground up as such. Those Beretta CX Storms are quite neat looking, and I've heard they take Beretta mags!What a silly thing to say!
Buy one, put a dot on it and take it to a falling steel plate match. It might just become your speed.
If you think a 9mm AR gets dirty fast, try a .22LR AR. Talk about an upper receiver full of carbon, grit, and carp!
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Wait, you’re supposed to clean them?…
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Having assembled a pistol and rifle initially for toys but finding they could be used for more if needed and be a very effective tool in certain scenarios. Both have run flawlessly (other than getting dirty fast, really fast canned) and have real confidence in both platforms. Option, pop two pins, pull the mag well adapter and I have two ready to go lowers with H3 buffers that run just fine under high gas, short barrel hearing destroyers. What's not to like?
Yep! Got one wIth a prism sight on it, runs my 92 mags, and it's fun fun fun! It sure does eat up ammo fast though! O, and it's one push pin to disassembly.
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