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Thread: 32 ACP win 244 chrono results

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    Boolit Bub
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    32 ACP win 244 chrono results

    Looks like I am in the minority on 32 ACP + 244 powder. I'm posting in case anyone is looking for data.

    71 gr Berrys .312
    Powder - Win244

    Primers - Remington 1 1/2 Small Pistol
    OAL - .980
    Press - Dillon XL650 w case feeder
    Dies - Redding 32 ACP Pro Series Titanium Carbide Pistol Die Set
    temp 66 deg F. alt 800 feet, humid 70%
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    2.1 gr Win244
    Scorpion 4.50" 903 fps (some stove pipes, too weak)
    Savage 3.75" 710 fps
    CZ50 3.75" 837 fps
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    2.35gr Win244
    Savage 3.75" 876 fps
    CZ50 3.75" 899 fps
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    2.4gr Win244
    scorpion 4.50" 985 fps (better cycling)
    Savage 3.75" 923 fps
    CZ50 3.75" 947 fps
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    fiochi 73 gr factory (loaded to Euro standards)
    Savage 3.75" 939 fps
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    32 acp 60gr sellers factory
    CZ50 3.75" - 939 fps

    I think 2.1gr is on the verge of too low, at least for my guns. The savage really dropped velocity over the tighter chamber of the CZ50 at this load. If you notice at 2.35 gr both the CZ and Savage are closer. My best guess is the Savage was able to seal the chamber better at 2.35gr vs 2.1 gr. At 2.1grs the CZ was quite a bit faster.

    I'm thinking my do all is going to be around 2.3gr, gives me a larger margin of error, don't want to cross the 2.5 gr barrier.

    Redding dies are good quality but the sizing die needs to size a few mm further down the case. as is 20 percent of the cases will be out of spec and not chamber well.
    Last edited by BobbyJ; 03-19-2022 at 07:29 PM.

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    Boolit Buddy
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    Good info. Thanks for sharing.

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    Boolit Bub
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    I just scored 6# of this stuff. Seems those that use it are quite happy with it. Loading up some 9mm tomorrow and am looking forward to some chrono time with our ever improving weather here. As Tejano said, thanks for sharing.
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    Boolit Bub
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pb&j View Post
    I just scored 6# of this stuff. Seems those that use it are quite happy with it. Loading up some 9mm tomorrow and am looking forward to some chrono time with our ever improving weather here. As Tejano said, thanks for sharing.
    Curious on your 9mm results. I've only used Hodgdons Hs6 on 9mm.

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    Boolit Master
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    So, are you intimating that Hs6 and 244 are basically the same powder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alferd Packer View Post
    So, are you intimating that Hs6 and 244 are basically the same powder?
    Sorry so late, not been on in a few weeks. No win 244 = win231 = HP38 or roughly. I like for 32 acp so far. I loaded up some Colt 45 250gr with it today and shot a bunch.
    6.7gr win 244 + 250gr RNFP = 880 fps out of Cimeron Bisely (7" barrel) and 845fps from a Pietta Colt revolver (4 3/4" barrel)

    Around the old black powder load velocities. In the Colt I did notice that 244 was smokey, left a cloud of smoke after each shot that I don't get from say Fiochi Cowboy 750fps 250gr ammo.

    I don't get any smoke from the CZ50 32 acp. Its not bad (some might like the effect), not like black powder smoke, not sure why win 244 so smokey out of the colts.

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