Anyone know about these hulls?

[Brick85]

I'm thinking of buying some of these once-fired hulls:

https://www.ballisticproducts.com/mo...tinfo/WINXP1F/

But I want to know exactly what type of hull they are. Would I use the load data from the Win Universal, or the Win Polyformed, or the Win AA (original), or the Win AA HS data? I want to be sure I can use the wads etc that I have around with these hulls.

Does anyone know about these? Ballistic Products hasn't answered my email about it.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

A Winchester hull should be fairly easy to find loading data for. Try another e-mail, and if no answer phone them.

DG

[rancher1913]

when you get them, cut one down the middle and compare to known styles, find one that matches.

[dverna]

If they are the Win. cheap hulls....which is what they look like... they are junk. You will not be happy with them.

[slim1836]

If they are the Win. cheap hulls....which is what they look like... they are junk. You will not be happy with them.

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Or, just add last years miniature Christmas lights for redneck lighting.

Slim

[MrWolf]

If they are the Win. cheap hulls....which is what they look like... they are junk. You will not be happy with them.

I preferred reloading the Remington hulls. I have reloaded STS and the gun clubs. Nothing wrong with the cheaper gun clubs.

[Budzilla 19]

Brick85, save yourself some money and agony. Those are not good hulls at all, as previously stated. They are very weak, and most, if not all, will buckle or collapse upon crimping! Post a wtb in swap and sell, get yourself some real AA, either the old compression formed, or the newer hs style hulls, you will be better satisfied, and a lot less frustration, or wasting of components. As always, just my opinion based on years of experience in reloading shotshells. Good luck to you.

[megasupermagnum]

All you need to know is that BPI also has Remingotn Gun Club's in stock for $30/500. They are great shells for most things.

[Rfeustel]

All you need to know is that BPI also has Remingotn Gun Club's in stock for $30/500. They are great shells for most things.

Remington gun clubs are great hulls. Can get like 10 reloads out of them.

[unclemikeinct]

I don't like the look of those store bought once fired Winchester hulls. You should stick to the brand/type you & your machine like the best. If you need a few hulls PM me. uncle mike

[Half Dog]

I also would pass on those. I bought some “1x fired” hulls from them. Some were clearly fired more than once but overall I was happy.

[MOA]

Go with the Remington gun club hulls. They are much better.

[Brick85]

Thanks, folks, I'll pass on those Winchester hulls. I'm sure at some point I'll be able to find something I can use with Cheddite primers, maybe even with Federal 12S0 wads too.

All you need to know is that BPI also has Remingotn Gun Club's in stock for $30/500. They are great shells for most things.

That website is a little disorganized but I did manage to find it after thinking I couldn't. This is a very good suggestion and I'll likely buy some if I can find data for what I need. Any ideas for using Cheddite primers with these? I don't have lots of experience with shotshell reloading but managed to snag a bunch of the Cheddite primers. Also have some Federal 209A and CCI 209 primers.

[MOA]

The diameter just below the rim, where the primer seats in the case head is the critical dimension. These dimensions are as follows:



.240 = Rem.



.241 = CCI, Fed,



.242 = Nobel Sport, Win, Wolf,



.243 = Cheddite, Fiocchi,



.244 = Rio.

[Walla2]

Additionally, the hull pictured is a six point hull not an eight point as advertised. Go with the Remington option.

[Half Dog]

I use the AA HS hulls with the Cheddite primers. From the information I found on Hodgdons web site, it seems the Cheddite primers can be used in place of the Remington primers.

[Brick85]

The diameter just below the rim, where the primer seats in the case head is the critical dimension. These dimensions are as follows:



.240 = Rem.



.241 = CCI, Fed,



.242 = Nobel Sport, Win, Wolf,



.243 = Cheddite, Fiocchi,



.244 = Rio.

So I'm guessing about .001 difference is ok either direction but not more than that? So Rem hulls with CCI/Fed primers, and Cheddites for anything .242 or bigger?

I use the AA HS hulls with the Cheddite primers. From the information I found on Hodgdons web site, it seems the Cheddite primers can be used in place of the Remington primers.

Yeah I think I saw that data to my great relief since I have some AA hulls and factory AA stuff I can shoot and load.

[W.R.Buchanan]

They look like Winchester Universals. they can be loaded 1-2 times but are best used in places where you can't pick up your hulls.

Then they become "Leverite." As in Leave r right there!

[megasupermagnum]

So I'm guessing about .001 difference is ok either direction but not more than that? So Rem hulls with CCI/Fed primers, and Cheddites for anything .242 or bigger?



Yeah I think I saw that data to my great relief since I have some AA hulls and factory AA stuff I can shoot and load.

You shouldn't have any issue putting Cheddite 209's in those Remington hulls. You will never be able to use any other primer in them after that though, unless you get Fiocchi or Rio primers.

[Brick85]

You shouldn't have any issue putting Cheddite 209's in those Remington hulls. You will never be able to use any other primer in them after that though, unless you get Fiocchi or Rio primers.

Thanks. I have a lot of Cheddite primers. I guess I can mark the hulls with a C as well.