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Thread: My M1 Garand cast bullet experiment

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    rromano,

    M1s, like all rifles can be at least a hundred feet per second plus or minus any other Garand due to bore wear or lack of, exact bore diameter, etc. Function is dependent on gas cylinder diameter as well as the gas piston diameter, gas vent and overall wear of the gun's mechanism. Larger tolerances in your gas system will require more pressure and so on.

    I load for four of them, and while they are usually within 50 fps of each other over the chronograph, they all have their idiosyncrasies.

    As I posted earlier, I use a non canister powder that is in between 4895 and 4064 in its characteristics. 36 grains is the sweet spot for this powder for accuracy and function, but you should be very close to that weight if you are using either 4895 or 4064. By best accuracy with all of my US service rifles in 30/06 with the Lyman 311299 bullet is between 1,800 and 1,900 fps. It's the bomb in either Springfields or the M1 Garand and it will hold its accuracy to way, way out there on steel or targets of opportunity.

    The bottom line with M1 Garands and cast bullets is that your loads may very well be a compromise between function and accuracy. One has to balance one against the other. It's all good though as once you get one shooting with cast bullets you'll have a load that will generally shoot in any of the US designed Ought Six service rifles.
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    Keep your powder dry,

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    Hi Guys....one thing to remember with the 299..depending on who supplies the mold..be it Lyman or NOE..the nose will be of a different diameter..in my M1 I have found that it likes the larger nose (.304)..so if you buy a 299 mold...remember the Lymans can run very small..under .30...NOE molds supply a nose that is specified on their spec. sheet...311299 (.301)..312299(302)...314299 (304)...since this is a bore rider design I would suggest that you determine whether or not the nose has sufficient bearing in your barrel....it will make a huge difference in accuracy.. AND pressure/ velocity...just how accurate is the 299 when everything is matched up?
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ID:	187457Plain Base Design 299 w/a 304 nose out of My 700 308 VS..this is typical
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ID:	187458100 yds 03a4 clone ...29 grs H4895- 314299 (304 nose)gas checked -.311

    BTW check you en-blocs ..the 5 rounders need to be spread open a bit....my M1 works best with old worn out 8 rounders..Dan

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check