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A new section for this forum, so I thought some might enjoy eyeballing this gun.
I was lucky enough to acquire this European ( it has a carrying sling attached) 20ga SxS hammer gun w/extractors awhile back - and found it handles like a magic wand.
It's in fairly new condition, so I cased it in a case from Connecticut Shotgun Mfg that I also ran across.
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Outstanding! I bet the quail run in fright when they see you coming with that one.
I love it. Especially the back action locks. It's just begging to go hunting!
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Oh my goodness, now that is a gun!
That is precisely the kind of thing that I would love to have.
I'm a big fan of data-driven decisions. You want to make me smile, show me a spreadsheet! Extra points for graphs and best-fit predictive equations.
That's great! I'm just getting into shotguns and wondering what took me so long. I've had autos, O/U's, and used a few pumps, and I've never really connected with them, but shooting with a good traditional SxS just feels much more natural. I'm looking for a good hammer gun like yours to r I understand out my small "collection".
Wish I still had some of the great SxS's I have had in the last 65 years. I like long barrels, 16 ga hammers that fell just right on the swing. The 16 will do everything a 12 does for me but just feels right.
Very nice. Who made it?
DG
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IDK who made it, DG.
The only designation is on the top rib (Manneman Special), and proof marks similar to Belgian proofs that none of the experts have been able to ID.
It has a very light frame, so in an abundance of caution, I use only low-pressure shotshells from RST.
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Of course I found it irresistible to not follow up on this. It seems that there was a very large German conglomerate that among making other products were in the business of making steel tubing, named Mannesman. They could have made the barrels. Acier was a gunmaking name closely associated with Belgium, and it is likely they made the gun and perhaps bought the barrels from Mannesman. I checked my usual printed references and found nothing about the gun, but did an internet "search" on Mannesman and Mannesman Special shotgun. Lots of stuff came up, including some images of varous shotguns, and one appears to be your photo on the deck railing! Mannesman was taken over by another company many years ago, and it doesn't mention that they, themselves, made guns.
DG
No quail for that gun. Just grouse. It is in New England after all. I have never learned to shoot double trigger guns and at 79 I probably never will. Do have single selective SxS and O/Us.
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I've always had a Lusting for a 20 gauge Hammer Gun ... they look so Elegant and Trim !
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I also know that "acier" means steel (not Damascus/twist).
One of the proof marks looks like it's Belgian, but has an "M" in the center that nobody seem to know anything about.
These 2 pics are the only proof marks anywhere on the inside out outside of the metal parts.
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What's not to love about the old classic shot guns. Very nice!
Attachment 295962Attachment 295963Attachment 295964Attachment 295965I have a 12 ga. Double with hammers that has a no forend , the lever that unlocks the action and second lever that allows the barrels to be removed from the action are sculpted to be your forend. It’s made in Belgium but has no makers name on it may be a guild made gun ? It’s got 2 1/2” chambers and I still haven’t fired it , I bought it about 1 1/2 years ago and have tried to find some RST shotshells for it but haven’t got any so I may load some of my own with cut down hulls and a roll crimper.I have found some good 1 OZ loads with SR 4756 that are only about 5 K pressure and I still have a pound of that powder left. It’s seems to be a good quality made double and the locks and triggers work fine and it locks up super tight.
I just have to many irons in the fire with dozens of project guns to get busy and shoot it. It’s on my list !
Jedman
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Originally Posted by Jedman
FWIW, I had the same issue, finding RST low-pressure shotshells, so I ordered some directly from RST: https://www.rstshells.com/
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I have an old SxS 16-gauge hammer gun, Damascus barrels. paid $100 for it.
I was going to load some light black powder loads for it, so far, I haven't, perhaps this summer.
I have an old Belgium 16 gauge hammer gun myself. I load it with 2F black and regularly use it to shoot doves. It weighs a trim 5 lbs. 2 oz..
That is a real purdy double 20!
Old enough to know better, young enough to do it anyway!
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Very beautiful old world quality piece.
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Very nice ! I shoot hammer guns in the SxS shoots but only 8 , 10 , 12 and 16 . I've not been able to find a Parker 20 gauge top lever hammer gun in my price range .
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