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Thread: Dropping 9mm at .36"plus

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    Dropping 9mm at .36"plus

    When I size (to.365) with my LEE 9mm sizing die, the large .359-.361 pills take large arm-strength. WHY are my latest batch so fat? The alloy mix includes equal parts range lead, cww, older casted/stored 41magnum re-melted, (and a few 2 ounce squares of linotype). The pot is a 40# reservoir POLICLIPS machine. The die is 6 cavity bronze. 136 gr rn.
    The only deviation from normal was the adding of the few pounds of 41mag bullets re-melted . Can ALLOY change the final diameter of a cast boolet?
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    Yes it can, duh bob. Generally, the harder the alloy, the greater the increase in boolit diameter. Lyman's Cast Bullet Handbook, 3rd. Edition has a chart showing how a given alloy affects the "as cast" diameter v. the diameter of the same bullet cast of pure lead.
    Last edited by Maven; 01-27-2022 at 07:18 PM.

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    Thank you Maven the added magnums were possibly much harder than my cww and range lead mix.I hate using the LEE bh gage but that is next.
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    do you mean .356? For PC sizing, I've found that a spritz of Hornady one shot makes life much easier
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    Agreed about the spritz of Hornady one shot. Literally a spritz is all that’s needed.
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    I can't lube the boolits or the sizer. The pills are getting powder coated next.
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    Powdercoat first, then size
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    And size right after you've finished the bake. Wait a day and the arm strength necessary increases considerably.

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    ^What he said. Size ASAP to limit hardening effects of antimonial alloys.
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    Check the face of the mold. A little spec of lead or tin or other debris can prevent the mold from closing completely. Use a tooth pick or pencil to clear the vent lines of the mold. A razor can also be used to clean the vent lines or face of the mold, but used incorrectly can cause more problems than it fixes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsizemore View Post
    And size right after you've finished the bake. Wait a day and the arm strength necessary increases considerably.
    Right ... they Age Harden ! And the same thing applies to simply casting and air hardening boolits ...
    Sizing the same or next day is much easier than waiting 5 - 7 days ...they age harden and become a bear to get sized .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsizemore View Post
    And size right after you've finished the bake. Wait a day and the arm strength necessary increases considerably.
    Wait a month or two and your ammo may fail to chamber b/c they have grown as they age harden.
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    Thanks all for the help! WE unraveled a confusing little mystery.
    Yes: the alloy was hard...
    Yes: I had to leave the boolets for a few days...and, THEY HARDENED
    And Maybe casting 1,200 in one session is jus' too many to manage
    Last edited by duhbob; 01-28-2022 at 07:14 PM.
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