Prophetic Dreams

[.429&H110]

Hebrews 1

10And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

11They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;

12And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

13But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

14Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Amen
Ministering spirits? And that is in the present tense.
We need ears to hear, discernment and prayer, meditation and study of the Word of God.
When you dream, your limited filing system is trying to sort it all out,
maybe with help, prayers answered,
how does consciousness work, anyway?

Figure out consciousness, you will get a Nobel Prize.
I don't believe we can, though.

[Alabama358]

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Of course it was "God's gospel/gospel of Jesus", but it was given to Paul firsthand.
It's no wonder that Peter in 2nd Peter 3:16 said that Paul's writings were hard to understand.
Paul also wrote prophetically in sections of both 1st/2nd Thessalonians.

You also said something similar a few weeks ago

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You obviously have no clue about the differences between James 2:24 and Ephesians 2:8>9.
You're not the only one, in 2nd.Peter 3:16 Peter has a hard time understanding some of Paul's writings.

Of course he would, he was an Apostle to the Jews, Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles.

Let us take a look at what the scripture actually says without pulling or twisting it...

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

see Above... I have highlighted it to make it easier for you to understand

Is Peter saying HE has a hard time understanding Paul's writings

OR ...

Is he saying the unlearned (ignorant) and unstable (not firmly established) wrest (pull or twist) Paul's writings the same way they do other scripture (not just Paul's)... and they do so to there own destruction. Finally a warning in verses 17 not to be led down the same path by these foolish wicked folks spreading false doctrine.


I think it is ironic that your effort to use 2 Peter 3:16 to push a false doctrine of...
"Peter being the Apostle to the Jews and Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles and that there is separate Gospels - Salvation Plans - Destinations for Jews vs Gentiles"
is exactly what Peter was warning about.

Peter was not confused and did not have a hard time understanding Paul's writings on end times or anything else for that matter... to imply such a thing negates that fact that Christ breathed the Holy Spirit into him (John 20:22) AND he was present at the day of Pentecost and was filled with The Holy Spirit. Acts 2

[Nines&Twos]

I got a prophecy for you....some childish dummy will win the election this year.

And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.

I jest but it's a sad state of affairs when this is ALL you have to offer. We can't find ANYONE better? Nobody?

Peter was not confused....

He had his faults but I gotta agree, Peter got to drink from the SOURCE of the well....not down stream...right from where it flows. I could never be compelled to believe he was confused on anything given the responsibility he was given.

[Alabama358]

I got a prophecy for you....some childish dummy will win the election this year.

I jest but it's a sad state of affairs when this is ALL you have to offer. We can't find ANYONE better? Nobody?

One can only take comfort in the knowledge that the God is in control... like when Christ educated Pilate on where his power was derived

John 19:11 (KJV) Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

With that in mind, I am still not sure how Puddin-head got elected or did he?

Hosea 8:4 (KJV)
4 They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.

[Nines&Twos]

Very much right 'Bama....it wouldn't make a difference if biden got elected for 12 more years and he rolled a smoke with the constitution. Won't stop us from grumbling about it though.
Every time I pray...I pray HIS will be done and you know what...I always get a yes from Him on that one. To the ruler of the 4 hidden dynasties...do your worst...you're still a loser.

[Bowdrie]

Some seem not to understand Acts 17:18>20.
Specifically verse 19, from the KJB

"And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is?"

See where it says "new doctrine"? Yes, it was "new", it was a "new gospel".
That "new gospel" was one of the mysteries that Paul was given, it was not the same gospel that the apostles had been preaching, it wasn't the gospel in the OT, it wasn't the gospel that Phillip preached to the eunuch in the chariot.
And it wasn't the gospel that Jesus told the disciples to preach in Matthew 4:17, (Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,) and compare it with what He told them to preach in Mark 16:16, (Believe and be baptized,) Peter in Acts 2:38, (Repent and be baptized,) now look what Paul says in Acts 16:30>31, and 1st Corinthians 15:1>4.
Paul was given several "mysteries" that were not spoken about by any of the OT prophets, nor the other apostles.
That there were different gospels preached throughout the Bible at different times cannot be denied.
Yeah, Peter got to "drink from the well", but to think that Paul, who was taken to the third heaven and spoken to by God was somehow "downstream", or not as good as what Peter saw/heard is not correct.
Since God spoke to Paul and "gave him a commission" so to speak, there has been but one gospel and one path of salvation, it's been so for almost 2K years.

[Alabama358]

Some seem not to understand Acts 17:18>20. Understand it well... you should try reading the WHOLE chapter
Specifically verse 19, from the KJB

"And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof thou speakest, is?" who is the "they"
(Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him) heathen Idolaters that were worshiping at an alter with an inscription "TO THE UNKNOWN GOD"... So I guess it is safe to say that it was a new doctrine to them... not different from the other apostles... but new to the Heathen that have never heard the Gospel of Jesus the Christ...You just need to read the whole chapter (in the Bible) and you might get it

See where it says "new doctrine"? Yes, it was "new", it was a "new gospel".It says New Doctrine... not New Gospel, that is your twist

That "new gospel" Doesnt say new Gospel was one of the mysteries that Paul was given, it was not the same gospel that the apostles had been preaching, it wasn't the gospel in the OT, it wasn't the gospel that Phillip preached to the eunuch in the chariot.Hogwash
And it wasn't the gospel that Jesus told the disciples to preach in Matthew 4:17, (Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,) and compare it with what He told them to preach in Mark 16:16, (Believe and be baptized,) Peter in Acts 2:38, (Repent and be baptized,) now look what Paul says in Acts 16:30>31, and 1st Corinthians 15:1>4.
Paul was given several "mysteries" that were not spoken about by any of the OT prophets, nor the other apostles.
That there were different gospels preached throughout the Bible at different times cannot be denied.

Yeah, Peter got to "drink from the well", but to think that Paul, who was taken to the third heaven and spoken to by God was somehow "downstream", or not as good as what Peter saw/heard is not correct.I do not think anyone said Paul was drinking downstream... That is you building a straw-man argument, stick to the facts
Since God spoke to Paul and "gave him a commission" so to speak, So to speak? lol there has been but one gospel and one path of salvation, it's been so for almost 2K years.

You must be reading someone's crib notes because there is no way you could read the whole of scripture and come up with this dung.

Just a point of fact... If you actually read Acts chapter 17, it blows up the idea that Paul was the an apostle to the gentiles only... notice that every new town he goes to he first hits the synagogue of the Jews for weeks at a time and gets as many Jews as he can saved and then goes to work on the Greeks/Gentiles. Do you recon he was preaching different programs to each based on their ethnicity?

Of course not, same message, same Gospel, same as the other apostles
They were all on the same page... you may be on a different page, but they were all singing off the same sheet of music

[725]

Charlie Horse ~ I just had the same experience. It was profound and comforting.

[Bowdrie]

Read Galatians 2:7>9, KJB
7, "But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;".

8, (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles

9, "And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision."

You question my use of the word "Downstream"? read post #63.
You laughed at my use of given a commission, so to speak?, read Colossians 1:25, the KJB uses the word "dispensation", (you know, the word you can't stand).
The NIV, Berean Standard, New American Standard, Christian Standard, International Standard Version, all use the word "Commission".
Then of course that dreaded word for you, "dispensation" comes up again in the:
Douay-Rheims, English Revised Version, Literal Standard Version, Websters Bible Translation, Majority Standard Bible, and some others, but you get the point.

The bitter angry people who are always attacking others over motes need to first remove the beams from their own eyes.
Those who are ingrained into covenant/replacement theology are unable to accept that while the message of God/Jesus is all thru the Bible, that ~80% of the Bible is directly concerned with Israel, (My Land,) Jerusalem, (My City,) Jews, (My People).

When the "Church" starts inserting itself literally as taking the place of Israel/Jews then they go all thru the scriptures trying to pound square pegs into round holes, it's really selfish, they think everything is about "Them".
That's why they can't properly discern many things, they can't discern the proper meanings of the parable of the 10 virgins, or the conversation that Jesus had with Nicodemus in John 3, or about the "Little Flock" in Luke 12, and how in connects to the parable of the workers in Matthew 20, or when Paul speaks to both Jews and Gentiles in 1st. Corinthians 6 about judging "angels" vs judging the "world".
They don't understand the difference between the "Kingdom of Heaven" and the "Kingdom of God". or that the "Kingdom OF Heaven" is not a "Kingdom IN Heaven", or that the 24 Elders are not of the Church.
They don't understand that the final destinations of the Jews, the Church, and those under the alter, (the tribulation martyrs, "those waving the palm branches") are different.
They can't understand the differences between Ephesians 2:8>9 and James 2:24, and why that James was written ~10 years before Ephesians it comes after it in the order of the books, and they can't understand the "shortening of days", even though it hides in plain sight in Daniel.
And they'll never understand that in the original Greek that Paul wrote in, the "falling away" in 2nd. Thessalonians 2 was a single root word with an "N" prefix, it denoted a onetime physical departure, not an over-time spiritual "falling away".
I could go on for pages, but I can't make a blind man see, nor can I remove the beams from their eyes.

[Good Cheer]

Yesterday I watched an interview that had been recorded last March where a fellow Christian told of what God had shown him concerning the attempted assassination, how the bullet would pass close by President Trump's right ear and the things to come in the months following. It's wonderful of God to want to let us know. It's wonderful of Him to show us that He is in charge.

[Nines&Twos]

Do you have a link or keyword(s) so I can find it? That sounds interesting.

[Good Cheer]

I saw it on yesterday's trunews broadcast as they were discussing the video from (elsewhere) last March. The audio replay is available on various platforms but I don't know where the video may be available except on
https://www.trunews.com

Did a search on the guy's name and this article popped up.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2479939...assination-bid

[Good Cheer]

Oh boy. Looks like the Lebanon war is about to crank up.

[worker]

What do you think is the mechanism involved for prophetic dreams?

https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/26635...h=all&lang2=en

In Judaism, prophets were seen as having attained the highest degree of holiness, scholarship, and closeness to God and set the standards for human perfection. The Talmud reports that there were more than a million prophets, but most of the prophets conveyed messages that were intended solely for their own generation and were not reported in Scripture. The Talmud reports that there were prophets among the gentiles (most notably Bilaam, whose story is told in Numbers 22, and Job, who is considered a non-Jew by most rabbinical opinions). The prophet Jonah was sent on a mission to speak to the gentiles of the city of Nineveh.

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The view is that everybody may receive various messages, but it is their interpretation (and who interprets them) -- is what acts as a necessary ingredient of materialization.

[Good Cheer]

https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/26635...h=all&lang2=en

In Judaism, prophets were seen as having attained the highest degree of holiness, scholarship, and closeness to God and set the standards for human perfection. The Talmud reports that there were more than a million prophets, but most of the prophets conveyed messages that were intended solely for their own generation and were not reported in Scripture. The Talmud reports that there were prophets among the gentiles (most notably Bilaam, whose story is told in Numbers 22, and Job, who is considered a non-Jew by most rabbinical opinions). The prophet Jonah was sent on a mission to speak to the gentiles of the city of Nineveh.

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The view is that everybody may receive various messages, but it is their interpretation (and who interprets them) -- is what acts as a necessary ingredient of materialization.

Thanks for the link to some very interesting reading.

My take on it is that receiving information about events that later come to pass doesn't make you "a prophet". That it's apples and oranges. That for sure and certain the capabilities are built into people by our creator, to varying degrees to individuals the same as other skills, but that's not the same as being contacted by Him. But that said, if you've received warning of something then does Ezekiel 33 kick in? Just some things I've pondered.

[Alabama358]

https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/26635...h=all&lang2=en

In Judaism, prophets were seen as having attained the highest degree of holiness, scholarship, and closeness to God and set the standards for human perfection. The Talmud reports that there were more than a million prophets, but most of the prophets conveyed messages that were intended solely for their own generation and were not reported in Scripture. The Talmud reports that there were prophets among the gentiles (most notably Bilaam, whose story is told in Numbers 22, and Job, who is considered a non-Jew by most rabbinical opinions). The prophet Jonah was sent on a mission to speak to the gentiles of the city of Nineveh.

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The view is that everybody may receive various messages, but it is their interpretation (and who interprets them) -- is what acts as a necessary ingredient of materialization.

Rabbinic Judaism, and the Talmud believe Jesus the Christ was a fake and fraud and believe that Jesus derived his power via satan and not GOD. They are antichrist.
As far as I am concerned anything written in the Talmud is worthless and irrelevant, YMMV

1 John 2:22-23
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

[Good Cheer]

Not that it has anything to do with prophetic dreams but segments of the three major religions of the region are all expecting their savior/leader to appear soon. Looks like the stage is set for quite a performance before Jesus shuts it down.

[ioon44]

We need to remember the fake one shows up first.

[Good Cheer]

Yes indeed. Setting the stage for his arrival has long been in the purposes of those guiding the course of events in the Middle East. Get the people there so they can build the temple, build it so he can sit in it, give people the opportunity to decide who they want to worship. The plan is coming together.

[Good Cheer]

I still wrestle with the Ezekiel 33 requirements placed upon the watchman.