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Thread: Mold for pp?

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    Mold for pp?

    I am wanting to try pp in .308 and .30-06. Did a little once before for a Krag with grossly oversized bore.

    Suggestions appreciated.

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    Lyman had some 30cal. molds and loading data in their cast bullet handbook. I think it was number 4
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    I have seen some NOE molds offered too.

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    I have this one from Accurate Molds. I use it in both the 308W and 30-06 and it's been a winner.

    https://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet...bullet=30-190P

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    What speed are you pushing them at?

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    I'm pushing them nearly as fast as regular factory loads, in the range of 2400-2500 fps. I wrap with green bar printer paper and lube the patch with white label BAC. I size the boolit to .304 and final size to .310 after patching.

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    Thanks

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    The old NRA publication from 1979 "Cast Bullets" by Col. E.H. Harrison has a good section on high velocity paper patch loading in .30 caliber rifles.

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    Read that years ago. My copy eventually disintegrated. Still have the old NRA loading manual.

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    I had one made by steve books for my 45-90, Nose pour. Just got it today actually. Fantastic people and mould.
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    Hope it helps.

    Let us know how you get on.

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    My most used 30 cal PP boolit is the NOE copy of the NRA design. I have the 175 grain version, and just like ShooterAZ I patch them with green bar paper, and usually load over a case full of WC860 duplexed a bit with IMR4227. Super light neck tension, just a slip fit in the neck. I also got Accurate to make me a nice one for the 338-06 with his micro grooves like a tumble lube bullet, at 220 grains. That's all I have used in that rifle and it performs beautifully.

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    The slower powders usually work the best. While I have not tried WC860, RL22 and H4831 work well for me. I've been shooting PP in my M700's, and don't resize my cases so that I can do the "slip fit" thing into the case necks. I let the rifle fully seat the boolits as they are being chambered.

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    Received one in the mail today, NEI .300 diameter 170 grain.
    Hopefully can soon make time to try it out.

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    Where does one obtain green bar paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 725 View Post
    Where does one obtain green bar paper?
    In my case, Ebay.

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    The green bar paper was for the dot matrix printers of loooooong ago. I just googled and it seemed to be running between 65-130 for a new box. I years ago looked at it like lead hunting, first asking around friends base, old office supply stores, ask around at old established businesses that may have a dusty partially used box sitting somewhere in the back. Think of it like another safari, like the one I am on now trying to find the no longer loved elusive floppy disc to steal the slide door spring for the pile of Marlin triggers here.

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    If one were buying a mold from Accurate for PP a 30 cal would you go with a .300 or something slightly bigger?

    I’m thinking about doing PP in my 30-40, but it’s a modern barrel in a Ruger#3. I don’t have the bolt cam to push the bullet into the lands. The GG/GC bullets I’m shooting now from a Lee 309-200 are seated long and I can push them in with my thumb.
    I know I’ll have to experiment with final size but if someone has some experience I’d appreciate it.

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    .001-.002" over bore diameter, so if it's a real 30 cal then .302".

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    Thank you

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