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    Happy 50th Jeremiah Johnson

    Picked this up a tractor supply just before Christmas. I'm 56 but I can somehow remember going to the movie theater and seeing the movie with my dad. Been a mountain man want a be every since then.
    I have a knight 50 cal MK 85 that I hunt with during early muzzleloader season in September when the leaves are on the trees. But for late season ( December) I break out the T/C Renegade and leather possible bag. It's not a Hawken but it's close enough for my imagination. I will sit on the couch one night every year before season and pop a big bowl of popcorn and relive my childhood.

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    kylongrifle32; if I remember correctly - Jeremiah Johnson "Wanted a Real Hawken" too in the movie. I built my Hawken from a Kit back shortly before Jeremiah Johnson came out in the movies.
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    Great movie, watch it at least once a year. Don't know if I'd of headed into the mountains armed with a 30 hawkens. Good thing Hatchet Jack met that bear.

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    Among my treasures is a Thompson Centre 54cal Hawkin and like others, I bought it after watching the movie.

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    Hello Kylongrifle32,

    Wow, where has the time gone.
    I can't believe it was 50 years ago when my best friend & I went to see that movie.
    Of course when I purchased my first muzzle loader, it had to be a Hawken (Thomson Center).
    Have since handed that rifle down to my son.
    Of course now I will have to watch the movie again, unfortunately it's not as exciting as it was 50 years ago.

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    Love the movie. Interesting little note, in Guns Magazine Special Old West 2022 volume #88 they carried an article on John "Liver-eating" Johnson (The Crow killing cannibal) whose life was put on screen as "Jeremiah Johnson". The story was definitely Hollywood-ized.

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    My oldest son literally wore out a VHS tape of that movie. 'Course I didn't discourage him. My first "Hawken" was a Lyman Great Plains rifle. Next was custom, 1850's correct, Gun Works Hawken. It compares favorably to the few originals I've handled.
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    I saw that movie at the theater. One time was enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moleman- View Post

    Don't know if I'd of headed into the mountains armed with a 30 hawkens.

    In the 1800's, a muzzleloading "30 bore" rifle is the same as today's .54 caliber - certainly good enough to ride the river with.


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    Strange coincidence.
    After 20 years our 32 inch TV bit the dust. Been watching it black and white for 2 months. We went out shopping yesterday and came home last night with a 43 inch flat screen. Told the wife we should put the Jeremiah Johnson DVD in and got the stink eye look. Got it set up and watched a few episodes of Forged in Fire. Wife feel asleep about 11:00 pm so I started channel surfing. Was working my way up to the 300's where our movie channels are. Got to 299 Reelz channel and there it was Jeremiah Johnson about an hour into the movie.

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    Definitely hollywoodized movie but intertaining. The story is based on several incidents but mostly as stated on "Liver eating Johnson". I don't believe anyone would call him a canibal to his face and live. Eating the liver of an enemy back then was a form of distain or disgust and practiced by more than just Johnson. As far as Robert Redford is concerned, he would be dead 30 seconds into a fight with the real Liver Eater. I read an autobiography about him and he was not someone you wanted to get mad at you. Of course in todays society he would be branded a muderer. He was or is buried in downtown Los Angeles, but it has been years since I read about him. james

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    Thanks for the input there TNsailorman ...
    Curiosity peaked and I did a quick search and came up with this website , has bits and pieces of info on Johnson .
    Interesting reading.
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    Thank lyou for that link Digger. I foung it very interesting. Evidently the "autobiography" that I bought and read was more ifction than truth. There were many old mountain men that deserve reading about and I read everything I could get my hands on about them when I was much younger. I even bought a drawing from the Colorado museum of Modena's Hawken rifle and I made an exact rifle to the dimensions of that rifle. I won many a black powder match with it before I quit shooting in rifle matches. The mountain men were responible for the westward movement by reason of some of their tall tales which they loved to tell the "pilgrims". They called it "yarning" and they spread some good tales, especially Jim Bridger, maybe the best of them all. Problem was, that Bridger told so many tall tales that shen he spent the winter in the Yellowstone hot springs area that nodbody believed him when he tried to tell about those hot springs and bubbling guizzers. It was an interesting era and I still enjoy reading about it. james

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    John Colter supposedly saw Yellowstone first and for some time thereafter it was known as "Colter's Hell." I think Colter predated Bridger as a trapper.

    I used to have the book "Crow Killer". It was a fun read but I don't know how accurate it was.

    Johnson was exhumed and is now buried in Trail Town in Cody, Wyoming and, has been for over 30 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro View Post
    In the 1800's, a muzzleloading "30 bore" rifle is the same as today's .54 caliber - certainly good enough to ride the river with.


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    I always wondered about that - thanks

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