Anyone who honestly believes this,,, is probably not smart enough to own firearms.Originally Posted by rancher1913
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Anyone who honestly believes this,,, is probably not smart enough to own firearms.
That doesn't necessarily mean that they wouldn't have a record anyway, ledger of funds paid out for tax purposes to whom, or verification in the form of receipts or memory. I've got several firearms that I acquired prior to the GCA and can tell you either by memory or sales receipt exactly where I got them, and those that I no longer own, exactly where they went. I imagine it's that way with many people, and it doesn't hurt to ask.......?
DG
Last edited by Der Gebirgsjager; 01-16-2022 at 09:22 AM.
the same can be said for those who feel the need to constantly put down others
if you are ever being chased by a taxidermist, don't play dead
Come on now. Even today, you don't think an actual gunsmith sees a pump action without a disconnector at least a few times a month? Were any pump actions of any kind made with a trigger disconnector before the 1950's? I can't think of one. Winchesters model 97 and 12, probably the most common shotguns of the first half of the 20th century don't. Remington made a lot of variations, but their model 31 doesn't. Ithaca's model 37 doesn't. As far as I can tell, the Remington 870 is the first pump action, at least popular one, that featured a trigger disconnector. It's almost a shame that old shotguns are now considered a feature, when in reality the trigger disconnector is the feature. There's no functional reason to have a trigger disconnector, it's just an unnecessary part for some kind of perceived safety reason.
The point being, there's no way a "gunsmith" has never encountered a pump action without a disconnector. He might be a good guy, but there's no way he is a gunsmith.
I was thinking that must be some shotgun, if it cost $500 used, in 1964. With inflation, that's over $4,000 now. Thank you for posting photos; that is a nice gun!
my point was that he obviously has had problems with things like this and did not want the liability. just because you think a gun is ok does not mean the atf will think a gun is ok. my friend I talked about would not allow that gun in his shop, he would come here and work on it, unless he made it safe to use and that might ruin the gun, he can not take the chance the atf picks that week to audit him and some green agent wants to make a name for himself, they had one try to confiscate some full auto's even though he has the correct ffl to handle them, cost him a lot of hassle. safe to use being a relative term, whats safe to you verses whats safe to a bureaucrat.
if you are ever being chased by a taxidermist, don't play dead
So, he doesn't know the laws and regulations governing the business he is in????? He also gives out misinformation based on his wants and needs not on the laws or regulations????? That's odd since he apparently holds an NFA firearms Form 3 FFL. They tend to be more knowledgeable that the average FFL holder.
As to an BATF audit they mostly compare the books. If they do look at individual firearms the laws are very clear as to what is legal and what is not legal and pump shotguns without a disconnector are 100% LEGAL. The BATF just can't pull stuff out of the air.
The more you inform us about his business practices the deeper the hole gets as to him being a sorry excuse as a so-called gunsmith.
2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
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"The Highest form of ignorance is when your reject something you don't know anything about".
- Wayne Dyer
I would also worry about a "gunsmith" that says a 1906 Model 97 should only fire dove loads. Lots of old 97s have killed duck, geese and deer with buckshot.
Not a put down,,a simple fact..and I stand by it..
Once again,, in case you've lost track of what was said...
'If you honestly believe only the Police should be allowed to own a pump shotgun'..
Your probably not smart enough to safely own firearms...
That is another myth pushed by less than knowledge people. The 12-gauge max chamber pressure 11,500 PSI except for the 3 1/2". Reality is lots of the light trap and dove loads use faster powders and actually have higher peak pressures than the so-called high base loads.
Last edited by M-Tecs; 01-18-2022 at 02:50 PM.
2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
– Amber Veal
"The Highest form of ignorance is when your reject something you don't know anything about".
- Wayne Dyer
I think a shotgun that beautiful would be worth a lot no matter who it belonged to. It is a Browning.
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