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    1870/78/15 Italian vetterli Load

    So I picked one up off GB about 2-3 months ago and havenít loaded anything for it yet. Since these rifles were originally black powder and then during WW1 had a barrel sleeve installed to convert them to 6.5 carcano.

    I donít know where a safe starting point for this rifle would be at and Iíve heard a ton of stories of people putting factory loads in them and blowing them up.

    If anyone has any experience or advice on where I should even start with this load I would appreciate it.


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    Does yours have the 6.5 Carcano sleeve installed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakebfr480 View Post
    Does yours have the 6.5 Carcano sleeve installed?
    Yes


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    What I read years ago was that the 6.5 conversion was marginal with full military loads but was intended for secondary troops and therefore not likely to get much use. You may need to stick to starting level loads for safety.

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    I have one with a very good bore that is an outstanding shooter. With 6 grains of Trailboss and a .270 diameter cast bullet of 140 grains 1/2" 5 shot groups at 50 yards have been gotten. I have a target with same load of 4 shots at 50 yards into one ragged hole. I made a full length scope and mounts for the rifle that is about 6 power and that is why I`ve shot such groups.

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    Did you watch this video? Good to have your rifle checked before firing, not just because of full power loads, but because it may have damage otherwise:
    https://youtu.be/-qOEh_DwJR0?t=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in Oregon View Post
    I have one with a very good bore that is an outstanding shooter. With 6 grains of Trailboss and a .270 diameter cast bullet of 140 grains 1/2" 5 shot groups at 50 yards have been gotten. I have a target with same load of 4 shots at 50 yards into one ragged hole. I made a full length scope and mounts for the rifle that is about 6 power and that is why I`ve shot such groups.
    Thanks good to know!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fgd135 View Post
    Did you watch this video? Good to have your rifle checked before firing, not just because of full power loads, but because it may have damage otherwise:
    https://youtu.be/-qOEh_DwJR0?t=1
    Yes Iíve watched it quite a few times actually lol, I plan on doing a detail cleaning and safety check of it probably today, everything on it seems to function just fine otherwise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmancrisler View Post
    Yes Iíve watched it quite a few times actually lol, I plan on doing a detail cleaning and safety check of it probably today, everything on it seems to function just fine otherwise.
    Excellent! If it doesn't work out to shoot that rifle, it's tall enough to convert to a floor lamp for the gun room!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fgd135 View Post
    Excellent! If it doesn't work out to shoot that rifle, it's tall enough to convert to a floor lamp for the gun room!
    Hahaha ya, it would certainly be a cool wall hanger but no one is here for just walk hangers


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    Iíll let yíall know how it goes once I actually get around to cleaning it and everything.


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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check