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Thread: Loads for the 38 S&W Victory Model

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    Replied to your PM. Enjoy.
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    I ain't volunteering to catch those boolits at 25 yards.

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    Interesting information shown below from Outpost75. I was assuming the Victory Model was regulated to shoot to 15 yards. After the small amount of data as shown on my targets, it was still shooting a bit high at 15 yards. The middle hole on both was @2" high. I know it is a great leap to work from that, but I think that per his information and given the rainbow trajectory of the 200 grain bullet zipping along at 642 fps a two inch high hit at 15 yards would possibly work out to target center more or less at 20 yards. Just my theory anyhow. I will of course do some shooting at 20 yards to verify my great big guess.

    Normal factory regulation during WW2 era was fired indoors at 20 yards aiming at a 2-inch diameter aiming black surrounded by a 3-inch circle drawn tangent to the aiming point at 6:00.
    Four out of six shots had to strike within the 3-inch circle with the ammunition provided as government furnished material. The maximum diagonal of six shots could not exceed 4 inches.
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    FYI the above info from the late Archie Dubia at the S&W factory, who targeted Victory revolvers as a young man. Same target was used post-WW2 for normal production of cop revolvers. When I was at Ruger in the 1980s the same roll targets were used for the India order and for normal commercial production of fixed sight revolvers.

    A 20-yard distance was long standard for indoor test tubes at both S&W and Colt.
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    Further I just cannot abide having one around that does not have the right ammo; even though the 38S&W Victory would not be at the top of my list for home defense.
    It would be better than a sharp stick and harsh words though.

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    My other S&W Victory in 38 Special shoots to point of aim at 15 yards with 148 gr wadcutters and 160 gr semi-wadcutters, but comparatively speaking it shoots flatter.

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