New .32 Rimless Cartridge

[sharps4590]

Now if a good God-fearing man owns to a dislike of Glocks and ARs, well I figure that's his right, and I'd agree with him. But deviled eggs and Brussels sprouts, are another matter...

[MNruss]

I would be highly tempted by a Savage Axis for this cartridge, at least on a Black Friday type deal, simply as a repeating bunny-gun.
I would already own one in 327 if they made them.
I’ve been tempted by the 350L.

Russ

[rockrat]

Already is a 10mm and 40 s&w. Ruger Blackhawk convertable

[FergusonTO35]

I have to wonder, how well would the new cartridge and the guns chambered in it work with reduced pressure cast loads? If it was no special trick to download it to .32 H&R performance level and still be reliable then I would find it rather appealing!

[megasupermagnum]

I have to wonder, how well would the new cartridge and the guns chambered in it work with reduced pressure cast loads? If it was no special trick to download it to .32 H&R performance level and still be reliable then I would find it rather appealing!

Well its full power load is 32 H&R performance level... so pretty easy.

[dverna]

So, after all these comments....who is going to buy one?

It won't be me...I already have semi-auto's, revolvers and carbines that hit like a 9mm.

[megasupermagnum]

So, after all these comments....who is going to buy one?

It won't be me...I already have semi-auto's, revolvers and carbines that hit like a 9mm.

I was hoping to have more info with Shot show, but that is not the case. It comes down to this for me. If they decided to change it last minute so it is infact a straight wall 32, I'd probably buy an M&P shield in one, and I'd be looking to have a GP100 327 federal cut for moon clips, just because.

As it stands, no. I carry large guns, and I have no problem with the capacity of 45 acp in full size guns.

[rintinglen]

243 WSSM, 41 AE, 256 Winchester, 45 GAP, etc., etc,.
Just another flash in the pan, IMO.

[35remington]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d4ovPt...p=QAFIAQ%3D%3D

How it is now is how the cartridge will be offered. In the design process what was considered best was no doubt chosen.

Interest in making some sort of hybrid pistol/revolver compatible cartridge is likely zero and there is no chance they will pursue that to get the business of the half dozen people who might like the idea.

[uscra112]

Y'know, there are countries in the world where "military" cartridges are illegal for civilians. Last I knew even France and Germany. That would include the 9mm. As I remember the .38 Super was made as a rule-beater for Mexico and South America. So this .32 might catch on there.







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[Tokarev]

In some of those countries the decision to ban military calibers is not anti-gun. It is anti-theft. Take Italy for instance, where 9x19 is illegal for civilians to possess but 9x21 is.
Those 2mm make such a little difference for a civilian but such a huge difference for an ammo store sentry.

[uscra112]

Maybe. The original reason after WW2 was to give police the legal authority to shut down criminals and guerillas using ammo and weapons stocks left over from the war. In Germany there were diehard Nazis attacking Allied occupation troops into 1947. South America I'm sure it was an anti-revolution measure. France I don't know just what the purpose was but to this day some of the civilian police carry Mini-14s chambered for the .222 Remington instead of the 5.56.

[Buzz Krumhunger]

In 10 years this thing will be as wildly popular as the 5.7x28.

[mobilemail]

I've been following this with interest, and thought I would add some comments. To start, I am a .327 fan, I shoot and reload .327 rifle and pistol. And like others, the loads I shoot mostly have the energy of hot 32H&R. I have also recently become a fan of the humble 32ACP, in my opinion its a "just right" caliber for the easily concealable "micro size" guns.
What I like about the idea of the .30SC is that I already have everything but the brass to reload it. What I don't like is the idea that I will have to reload it because if it's like .327 I will NEVER see the ammo on a gun store shelf! I can count on one hand the number of times I walked into a store and there was .327FM available, and .30SC will be worse. I will be a bystander on this caliber until brass and reloading data are available, at the very least.
As for guns, I carry a Shield (or a SP-101 .357, depends on the day). I have been very satisfied with my gen 1 shield, and never felt the need to plunk down hundreds to replace it with a gun because I would have two more rounds. Extra mag, anyone? But the thing is that it has a lot of competition, the consumer has many gun choices. How many guns are available in .30SC? When more guns are available to choose from I will be more interested. I think Ruger is the only large scale manufacturer currently producing a .327FM handgun in any variety. That's a shame, but it's still true. Personally I would be "highly interested" in a metal gun in .30SC, especially a 1911 officer's model. I think it would also make a fun PCC, but who could afford to shoot it.
Which comes down to the last point of...why? Why would a consumer buy such a specialty gun when there are so many built to handle the ubiquitous and way cheaper 9mm? This gun will have to be sold, it definitely won't sell itself. As for the "extra round" argument...what about states with a 10-round mag limit? Advantage gone.

Next!

[Outpost75]

For many years I have been a fan of the .32 ACP. .32 S&W Long and .32-20. I dabbled briefly with the .32 H&R Mag., but saw no need for it as strong postwar .32 S&W Long revolvers could be safely loaded to nearly the same payload and velocity, as could also the.32 ACP in steel-frame autopistol refitted with 18-pound .380 ACP recoil springs. A 90-grain bullet at 900 fps is easily attainable with 3 grains of Bullseye in .32S&W Long or 3 grains of Autocomp in .32 ACP or 5 grains of AutoComp in the .32-20.

I see no need for more.

[dkf]

The only advantage to this cartridge is in most guns you can squeeze and extra round or two in the magazine vs 9x19. That is it. It doesn't attain 9x19 performance. With the pressure it is running it is not going to be mouse gun friendly and its going to be snappy. The ammo companies cannot keep up with demand over the last couple years so what do they do. Come out with another caliber. I'll wager this new round will end up sitting by its lonesome on many shelves.

[dverna]

For many years I have been a fan of the .32 ACP. .32 S&W Long and .32-20. I dabbled briefly with the .32 H&R Mag., but saw no need for it as strong postwar .32 S&W Long revolvers could be safely loaded to nearly the same payload and velocity, as could also the.32 ACP in steel-frame autopistol refitted with 18-pound .380 ACP recoil springs. A 90-grain bullet at 900 fps is easily attainable with 3 grains of Bullseye in .32S&W Long or 3 grains of Autocomp in .32 ACP or 5 grains of AutoComp in the .32-20.

I see no need for more.

Outpost,

IIRC you did a great post/thread on the .32's sometime ago. It ratcheted up my opinion on the .32's after I read it. It might be educational for this thread to link it here if you have the time and feel it would help the discussion.

My search abilities are pathetic.

[Daekar]

For many years I have been a fan of the .32 ACP. .32 S&W Long and .32-20. I dabbled briefly with the .32 H&R Mag., but saw no need for it as strong postwar .32 S&W Long revolvers could be safely loaded to nearly the same payload and velocity, as could also the.32 ACP in steel-frame autopistol refitted with 18-pound .380 ACP recoil springs. A 90-grain bullet at 900 fps is easily attainable with 3 grains of Bullseye in .32S&W Long or 3 grains of Autocomp in .32 ACP or 5 grains of AutoComp in the .32-20.

I see no need for more.

This reminds me of why I am so bummed out that Beretta doesn't make the Cheetah anymore. Beautiful gun, up to 12 shot magazine in 32ACP, supposedly shoots beautifully. If I were go to back to a semi-auto for a carry gun I would love to find a good example of that.

In my opinion, they chose the wrong cartridge to target with the 30 Super Carry. The should have tried to duplicate the performance of 380ACP in a 32 caliber cartridge because one of the biggest problems with 380 is you're giving up power to the 9mm for the sake of size and/or shoot ability without any increase in capacity.

[Good Cheer]

Used a 6" barrel .32ACP and #313249 for camp meat, bunnies and popping up over the backside of cow ponds. It was a good round because it would operate at low pressure. This new thing at 50kPSI... uh, nope, no thanks.

[megasupermagnum]

Used a 6" barrel .32ACP and #313249 for camp meat, bunnies and popping up over the backside of cow ponds. It was a good round because it would operate at low pressure. This new thing at 50kPSI... uh, nope, no thanks.

Are you afraid that chamber pressure has become too expensive?