Well that explains adding those. I browsed their web site and it didn't show anything about it in the "About us" section....a little slow on website updates.
Well that explains adding those. I browsed their web site and it didn't show anything about it in the "About us" section....a little slow on website updates.
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It looks like all of the cartridges mentioned by everyone here are still present in the on-line version of Hodgdon's book. There is a print function available so perhaps adding those not seen in your book would be possible.
As an aside, I do have compilations of load datas for everything that I load for printed off and in a binder. Whether it's from Load Data or Hodgdon's or wherever.
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I took their entire online cookbook and printed it, three hole punched it, and put it into a binder. Burned through a good bit of work’s paper and ink but replaced double the paper and now I can reference them from the basement without having to come upstairs to get cell service. Can never have too much data within reach.
I will also say, the Cabelas near me has all the current manuals on unwrapped and on display in the reloading section for reference. This lets me “test drive” to see if the book has enough information that I’ll actually use to be worth buying.
I download what I need and keep it on my phone as well as on the PC. This includes pictures of targets from my range sessions, chronograph data from all those sessions and other notes I make while reloading. A few years ago I took all of my reloading manuals and scanned them into documents to store as well. I also back up the data regularly to a USB stick.
This way I have all of my data wherever I am. Reloading bench, range, etc.
And, yes, I know that if the world implodes and a giant EMP takes out all electrical stuff I will have lost my data. I am ok with that
Im still using Speer #11 and the Lyman #44 for most of my Data
as well as copies of older manuals
My newest Fun Caliber to shoot is 35 Whelen
Not a lot of data out there for it But have a bunch bookmarked in the computer / and paper copies
try Finding Cast data for it with a new bullet of a different weight
My whelen / 16 twist likes the Noe 35XCB Bullet and for a fun load likes 158g Pistol bullets
I have books going back to Phil Sharpe's in....1937 or 1935? Ha...all of my cartridges are older than that. I haven't needed a "new" manual since the 1980's but I latch on to every old one I can find. Load Data was a source but, they only had one cartridge I didn't have data for and what they had was no better or much different that I'd already extrapolated. $35.00 for 1/2 page of data for one cartridge was a bit steep. They do have a lot of data, however.
Type in a 9.5 X 47R anyplace and see whatcha get back.
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I never needed a lot of 'new' data until the mfgs started coming out with all these new formulas. Especially when I can't find the old standards on the shelf.
Keep all your old manuals!!!!!!! The data for the "OLD" powders never goes out of date.......unless attacked by some gaggle of liberal loony lawyers.
They are just making room (costs of printing and publishing) for new powders and assume (probably incorrectly) the cal's you mentioned are no longer popular out here. I sure do not have any of them. But a lot of guys/gals have them
But use what you have in the old books. I do not run out and buy every new loading book on the shelf each time one comes out.
"What's old...................is new again". Works for me.
Do what I do.......................find what you want on-line and PRINT it out! Then assemble it in a (large) 3-ring binder with all your load data. My compiled reference book (I call it Banger's Boolit Bible) is approaching 3" thick now and has tons of info I have collected over the years. It is at your fingertips and you can take notes and such, unlike relying on the on-line stuff.
It took Lyman 15 yr to get data for the 6.8 SPC and the others weren't a lot quicker about it .
They call it progress .....
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I quit using printed manuals 20 years ago.
Who really needs a new annual manual?
I imagine all the testing of new powders and bullets is a full time job. Couple years back I bought 500 once fired 30-30 cases that had little circles embossed on their sides. Figured it was from pressure testing, maybe those new rubber tipped bullets or something. A huge amount of work goes into generating the data for a proper loading manual.
They had to, you know that paper is so expensive.
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I have quit buying manuals, just download and print what I need.
I stopped buying hardcopy manuals after I got a recent Lyman manual and the ABCs of Reloading. I've hoarded all the PDF manuals I can get my grubby little mouse pointer on, and I have a subscription to LoadData. I'm sure there is some data, somewhere, in the new manuals which I might not have access to with that combination, but I don't ever feel that I'm loading without sufficient information to be safe. Pretty wild to see that they removed 7.62x54R from the listing though, given how common Mosin Nagant rifles are and how many folks are going to be wanting to load when the ammo import ban hits our supply of steel-cased Commie cartridges.
Hell, I've got a very nice hex-receiver Tula m91/30 which I've barely shot because I don't have the heart to put corrosive surplus ammo through it and I haven't been able to stomach prices for brass 7.62x54r cases. I never thought there would be a time when data for that rifle wasn't in a manual.
I'm a big fan of data-driven decisions. You want to make me smile, show me a spreadsheet! Extra points for graphs and best-fit predictive equations.
Same number of pages for several years makes me think they want to manage printing costs and shipping. Especially shipping, there is a good chance by keeping that number of pages keeps them in a certain postage bracket.
You have to figure there is some executives who's whole job is to edit what goes in and what doesn't. If they didn't change things how would anyone know they are doing their job? Even if it really comes down to being able to count to 168 pages.
No data for 32 acp? What are they thinking! Oh that most folks who load that already figured out a load so let us ignore them? Just evil if you ask me.
I'm another vote for hard copies. Have found web info that was really useful and bookmarked it only to find the site is gone when I get around to going back to it.
Scrap.... because all the really pithy and emphatic four letter words were taken and we had to describe this source of casting material somehow so we added an "S" to what non casters and wives call what we collect.
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Does the online load data from Hogdgen come from this new master? I hope not.
I for one am getting into 32 acp loading and also a 44spec loader. It's a bummer that it's falling off the book, but it's not acceptable if this also means they pull it out of the electronic manuals...
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BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
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