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    4227 uses?

    Had lunch with my dad yesterday and he mentioned that he bought 8 lbs of IMR 4227 for a .32-40 Scheutzen match rifle.

    He sold the rifle and still has the powder and offered it to me for free. The powder is probably 20 years old.

    I shoot mostly 10mm, .40 S&W, .45 Colt, .308 and .30-06 AI.

    Is it worth messing with it for any of my calibers?
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    It will work with boolits in .308 and .30-06 at target velocity. There is a classic "Ruger only" load with 4227. A little research will turn it up.

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    works great in 45 colt, 20grains

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    I use it in my .32-40 schuetzen as well as 44 special and Mag. Also .45 colt

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    Quote Originally Posted by herian67 View Post
    works great in 45 colt, 20grains
    Yeah that one.

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    Back in the 60s and 70s IMR4227 was a go-to powder for 30 Carbine under a 110 gr jacketed, or cast boolit. Primary reason was it generated sufficient gas pressure and volume at the right time from ignition to operate the M1 Carbine operating slide.

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    In the early eighties, during the heyday of Sillywett shooting it was THE powder for the 44 mag and cast boolits.
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    Powder of choice for full charge loads in .32 H&R Mag, .32-20, .38-44 Heavy Duty .38 Special, .44-40 rifle.
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    It’s my go to powder in 300 blackout.


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    I use a lot of 4227 in my Ruger handguns,, especially the 44's & 45's. It's also excellent in the 357 Max. It's a very very good powder.

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    As others have said, it’s a great powder that will work in many applications! You be lucky.....I waited/searched for almost a year for 1 pound to try out in my 460 S&W! memtb
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    Thanks for the responses! Looks like I'll have to give it a try.
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    45 colt IMR-4227 From 16.5 grains to 21.0 grains, 230 gr.

    308 Win. IMR-4227 From 25.0 grains to 26.0 grains, 150 gr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    Powder of choice for full charge loads in .32 H&R Mag, .32-20, .38-44 Heavy Duty .38 Special, .44-40 rifle.
    Friend Outpost75, I’d be very interested in hearing your specifications for “full charge loads” for the 32 H&R and 32-20. My newly acquired Blackhawk Buckeye Combo 32 should love them! I used to keep a little 4227 for my 32-40s, but had too many other powders I liked better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Frog View Post
    Friend Outpost75, I’d be very interested in hearing your specifications for “full charge loads” for the 32 H&R and 32-20. My newly acquired Blackhawk Buckeye Combo 32 should love them! I used to keep a little 4227 for my 32-40s, but had too many other powders I liked better.

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    In the Ruger you can fill the case with 4227 with as much as it will hold using a drop tube and with 1/8" compression by the seated bullet, in the same manner as loading black powder. In any other revolvers don't exceed filling the case gently without compression.
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    For both .32 mag and .32-20?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumbcocker View Post
    For both .32 mag and .32-20?

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    Yes, assuming the .32-20 is a post-1918 heat treated S&W Hand Ejector or post-1930 Colt SA, or Official Police, but not a pre-WW2 Colt D-frame or Army Special.
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    While not giving the highest velocities in 450 Bushmaster, it does run a close 2nd, with accuracy being a bit better.

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    I use it in 10mm (revolver), .357 magnum, .300 BO, and .22 Hornet.

    Great stuff.

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