Whose design is this boolit?

[Budzilla 19]

Any help will be greatly appreciated.Fellow cast boolit brethren, I got 27 pounds of these .3585” boolits in a deal a few days back, but have NO idea whose mold design this is!!! Lyman, Lee, H&G,Saeco? I plan to PC and size to .358” for some nice 38 spcl plinking loads!

Thank you in advance.

[Budzilla 19]

Attachment 293149

Adding photos will help!,,

[Maven]

I can't open that attachment, Bz.

[gwpercle]

I get invalid attachment ... post it and I can probably tell you what you have ...maybe .
And tell us how much it weighs ...that can make a difference .
Gary

[Nueces]

From your other Networking post, which did include a photo, the bullet looks like a Lyman version of the Keith, which they styled 358429. Lyman made mods, as do most others who want to offer a 'Keith bullet,' by reducing the width of the front band and making the lube groove round in later versions. There have been a bunch of makers, small and large, who have offered this design, so it's not generally possible to ID the maker of this one.

However, the squared lube groove of yours argues for it to be an early Lyman, or even an H&G. Nice find.

[Green Frog]

I can’t open the picture either, but if you don’t have the mould, it really doesn’t matter. You have 27 pounds of those bullets to shoot (approx 1200 of them) so just look up a load for that bullet weight using your favorite powder and enjoy them while they last!

Froggie

[Budzilla 19]

I posted the picture in the original post.sorry about that,guys. Weighs 170 grains, plus or minus a half grain.

[Budzilla 19]

Attachment 293163 weight is 170 grains.

[Gofaaast]

Lyman 358429. Front band is a tad narrow but some cherries are that way.

[Budzilla 19]

Thank you, gentlemen!!! I knew I could count on you guys for info. I’m going to use these for some “ thumper” .38 special loads. Got plenty of Unique, and Herco powder.

[gwpercle]

It appears to be the old original version of the Lyman/Ideal #358429 - 170 grain - with square cut grease grooves as Elmer Keith designed them .
I am sure Hensley & Gibbs (H&G) made a mould in this design also so it could have been cast from either a Lyman/Ideal or H&G mould ... they would look quite similar .
Whatever you do don't melt them down ... Elmer Keith designed this one for the 38 special and 38/44 HD !

For "use in 38 special thumper loads" YES !
Gary

[Budzilla 19]

gwpercie, thank you,sir! I do appreciate the info. With that shape, it should transfer energy very well! Don’t know what speed I’ll be able to get out of that particular boolit, ( I killed my chronograph last time out) but I have a very robust Colt 38 to fire them out of! Not going for barn burners, but a consistent speed. Melt them? Lord, no way! Work is done already! Powder coat, size, load, enjoy! Thanks again to all of you guys who provided info.

[mehavey]

See http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...bullet=36-170J
Inspired by Lyman 358429. For 38 spl.
http://www.accuratemolds.com/catalog...catalog-anchor

[Green Frog]

Budzilla19 it looks like you’re sitting pretty. A huge supply of bullets to test and the knowledge of what mould to look for if you like the results you are getting. I don’t think I’d pay the ridiculous collector prices some folks are demanding for the original Ideal moulds these days. If I couldn’t find a very nice one at a reasonable price, I think I’d go for one of the modern made ones from one of the better current mould makers… I’m thinking specifically of NOE for instance.

Which “very robust” Colt are you planning to use? If it’s the big old New Service frame, roughly equivalent to the S&W N frame, it will be wonderful. The Python (or other I frame size) guns are nearly as strong. You can really make some fire breathing, ground stompin’ loads for those guns and stay within safe pressure ranges. Go out there and make Elmer Keith proud!


Best regards,
Green Frog

[358429]

What color are you gonna paint the bullets?