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    Generator for RCBS casting furnace.

    I need to buy a generator for my casting. What size do I need to run the pot, fan and a light.

    Im needing a generator anyway just in case.

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    You won't need a real big one if its just for that.

    I'd have to double check, but I think my old RCBS pro melt only draws 800 watts when the element is on.
    A light and fan won't be very much extra draw-- maybe 100 watts or so on top of that.

    If the decal is still on the front of yours, it should tell the watts it draws.
    Honda makes one that's 2,200 watts for about $100. It would do a good job for ya,
    and not be bogged down much trying to keep up with the draw.
    And, they're fairly quiet.
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    If you are going to run your house during power outages, then buy as much as your wallet will allow!! Personally, I made it ok during Hurricane Laura last year with a 9.7 kw gas or propane dual fuel generator! But.... no central ac, no dryer and no microwave. So.... this year, after pricing local generator companies, you know, standby permanent style generator, I gave up on waiting on the dealer, ( Let’s Go Brandon, for the delay in manufacturing), and shipping delays, and ordered, from all places, Amazon, a 26.7kw portable. Now, I can run the whole house, all the time! So, the reason for this long story, buy what you think you need, and be prepared. Just for casting? 5500 watts oughta do it fine! Just my opinion. Good luck.
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    The RCBS pot pulls 850 w your lights and fan shouldn't pull more than 1500w. For a back up genset I would go with a 4500/5000w unit they don't cost much more than a smaller one and will be much more useful when the power goes off.
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    Generator for RCBS casting furnace.

    As stated, a 2000w (with a 850 plus a fee hundred amp misc load plus starting amps) should work but if you want it for storm and other, go at least 4000 to 5500 and ideally dual fuel so you can run on gas and propane. You probably already have three or four propane bottles so they offer a easy fall back should gas be hard to come by at any point. It wonít handle the starting in rush on a central AC, but itíll cover a window unit or a camper AC.

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    We have a few generators around here.

    We have a 6250 watt that we purchased after Ivan in 2004, a really cheap unit that is supposed to carry 2000 watts, but I have some doubts about that and a Harbor Freight Honda clone that is treated at 2200 watts.

    The big one is a workhorse and can run fridge/freezer, small a/c and a few lights. It's loud and burns about 5 gallons of fuel in around 8 or so hours.

    The cheapo can run a fridge and a few lights and fan(s) - you just have to be more careful with loads. It isn't too loud and 5 gallons will last several days. I haven't used it that much, but have loaned it to my mom to keep a fridge cold after a hurricane.

    The Honda clone can run a small a/c, fans and some lights or a fridge and upright freezer and a fan or two. It is quiet and specs say it will run 12 hours on its 1 gallon tank at 25% load. My experience is probably 8 hours running a 500 or so btu window a/c and a few lights/fans.

    The small inverter generators like the Honda and Harbor Freight are very quiet and fuel efficient. Some of them can be daisy chained to combine two generators capacity. This usually requires a special cable. They are not terribly heavy to move or transport.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GARD72977 View Post
    I need to buy a generator for my casting. What size do I need to run the pot, fan and a light.

    Im needing a generator anyway just in case.

    My very first generator -- maybe 40 years back? -- was/is a McCulloch 2,000 watt unit. Primarily "just to use it" I plugged in a Lyman Mould Master pot, and not surprisingly the rpms of motor changed as the internal pot thermostat switch closed and opened -- this well before I "graduated" to inline PID controllers. One of my present generators is a Honda 2000-watt Inverter unit which is most quiet in operation; reliable; economical vis petrol use, and quite light in weight/portable. IF you do not need to run a 220V water well pump; run an electric range &/or clothes dryer; and/or have electric heat -- one of these might do you nicely. The current model adds 200 watts -- it is now 2,200 watt -- a photo is inserted.Click image for larger version. 

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    The big generators are great if ya need one.
    However; they are thirsty. Plan on one using around a gallon an hour or more of fuel.

    The little ones will run 6-8 hours or so on a gallon of gas.
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    How long are you going to want to hear it running while casting? I have a Honda like the one pictured above and it has been super reliable and very, very quiet. Well worth the higher price in my opinion.

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    The smaller generator is more appealing right now. I would like it to be portable. I may buy a larger one later.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewbaby View Post
    ideally dual fuel so you can run on gas and propane.
    I've got a decent size dual fuel for our fairly frequent storms and power outages.
    I'd only run it on gasoline as a last resort if I run out of propane.

    The gasoline lets it put out more power, but as I get older-
    the less and less I want to mess with the storage issues of a gas engine and preventing stale fuel.

    With the propane, you can use it, then shut it down and store the thing almost as easy and maint. free as a electric motor.
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    Feel the same way. With the camper, grill, griddle, fish cooker, and spares, I typically have ~50 gallons of propane on hand. About 100 hours at least of run time just on propane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winger Ed. View Post
    You won't need a real big one if its just for that.

    I'd have to double check, but I think my old RCBS pro melt only draws 800 watts when the element is on.
    A light and fan won't be very much extra draw-- maybe 100 watts or so on top of that.

    If the decal is still on the front of yours, it should tell the watts it draws.
    Honda makes one that's 2,200 watts for about $100. It would do a good job for ya,
    and not be bogged down much trying to keep up with the draw.
    And, they're fairly quiet.
    Did you drop a zero there somewheres? I've never seen a Honda generator for $100. Maybe $1000? If you can tell me where to get one new for $100 I need a couple of them. Geo posted a photo of the Honda 2200W generator, and I did a quicky search, and found them listing for about $1200. The Harbor Freight Predator 2000W generator that's a copy of the Honda is $559 and in short supply at my local HF. Seems to be the way things go for me these days.

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    Last I checked, Honda does not make a dual fuel unit.

    The smaller gen sets (under 3500 watts or so) will NOT run 220V but you do not need that voltage for your use.

    The little Honda pictured above will run you $1200 so not cheap and it will put out 1800 watts which will be plenty. But seems overkill to cast bullets IMO.

    If you have 220V needs then buy something that will handle it for your "just in case" emergency needs and get a dual fuel model. It will be bigger than you need for casting but a better investment in the long run. If you do not have 220V needs, many of the smaller 2000 watt units come with kits that allow you to tether them together for more power when you need it. That is a nice feature as you can use one most of time and save fuel but add the second unit during an emergency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrounge View Post
    Did you drop a zero there somewheres?
    Yeah, my bad. I glanced at a page after a quick search without wearing my glasses.
    It seemed rather cheap, but I didn't think much about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrounge View Post
    Did you drop a zero there somewheres? I've never seen a Honda generator for $100. Maybe $1000? If you can tell me where to get one new for $100 I need a couple of them. Geo posted a photo of the Honda 2200W generator, and I did a quicky search, and found them listing for about $1200. The Harbor Freight Predator 2000W generator that's a copy of the Honda is $559 and in short supply at my local HF. Seems to be the way things go for me these days.

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    Scrounge (and others) -- I bought my Honda 2000 primarily for portability and to take/use at camp. I bought it online about eight years ago from a place called "the Generator Shop" or something similar -- and I paid $899.00 for mine. A "plus" for the vendor I selected was the free shipping and NO sales tax exacted. I believe mine is now kind of obsolete -- been updated to the 2,200 watt model. Mine runs and runs like the proverbial Energizer rabbit. My only complain is in their design you shut motor-electric and fuel valve simultaneously. Hence, you cannot readily run it out of petrol (my ideal) for storage. Three things I ALWAYS do is 1/ Use nothing but Ethanol-free petrol; mix 1 ounce of Sta-bil to 2 1/2 gallons of petrol; and, I add one ounce to each gallon of petrol, SeaFoam. These OCD's surely help -- but, after a few-month hiatus -- starting has been on occasion -- a challenge. However, I generally need just remove the spark plug, squirt in a bit of petrol from an oil can I use just for this purpose -- and it (knock wood) has always started and run quite well. An unbelievably quiet unit, too... If this one broke -- I'd not hesitate a millisecond before replacing it with a similar unit!

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    I bought a PowerSmart 2500w generater on a black friday deal. Its an inverter so I should get plenty of time from a gallon of gas. I n3d to run my convection toaster oven also. The unit weighs 43 pounds so it just might make some trips to the range this winter with the coffee maker!

    Thanks for the advice. The smaller unit is what I wanted for what im doing. I may buy a bigger generater this summer. Not sure if im going to wire my Shop (shipping container) or not. A bigger generator may run the shop and back up for the house. I dont get much time in the shop so cost is not a big factor.

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