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Thread: Uberti Schofield in 44-40.

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    How I came to be an SR-7625 user/advocate is.....well, it was good for me...lol! I needed some SR-4756 as I use it in my 16 bore shotshell loads....and I was about out...and it had been discontinued. A friend was cleaning out a powder magazine and sent me an e-mail saying he had about 3 1/2 lbs. of SR-4756 I could have but, here was a kicker. If I took the 4756 I also had to take about the same amount of SR-7625. It was a tough decision but I finally relented....

    I'd never heard of or used SR-7625. Some digging in manuals showed a lot of handgun loads so I tried it in my 44 Spl. and 45 Colt. It shot as good as anything else I tried and was somewhat miserly about consumption sooo.. now I at least try it in all my revolvers. It rarely fails to turn in a good performance.
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    I found this thread MOST interesting. I have great respect for both Outpost and Larry Gibson's data. They both have seriously good backgrounds for this info and NOT just speculation. When they speak, I LISTEN!

    Having said that, other's experience on here can also be useful.

    I am admittedly a bit conservative, but I have put, literally a couple HUNDRED THOUSAND rounds of reloaded downrange and have never blown up a gun. However, I had a USA military 30'06 factory round split a head and spewed brass right back into my safety glasses covered eyes, drawing blood on my forehead. Things DO happen.

    I will confess to, early on in my IPSC career, to cracking a slide on a 1911 .45 ACP before I learned that coil springs can and DO take a set. That experience taught me that periodically "weighing" the assembled "spring weight" is a VERY good idea. I figured out a way to easily do that to keep that from ever happening again.

    At any rate, be safe, my friends, a threads like this can KEEP us safe, IF WE PAY ATTENTION!

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    Amen Dale.
    I will add Savvy Jack and his work with the 44-40 WCF, no new cartridge to me has given me more satisfaction than the 44-40 WCF in a short period of time. I have enjoyed fantastic accuracy following his and John Korth’s work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Bohannon View Post
    Amen Dale.
    I will add Savvy Jack and his work with the 44-40 WCF, no new cartridge to me has given me more satisfaction than the 44-40 WCF in a short period of time. I have enjoyed fantastic accuracy following his and John Korth’s work.
    Thanks Randy.

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    I think I have found THE LOAD!!

    Most of the loads I tried all seemed to be a at least a little sensitive to powder position. I looked around the Hodgon web site and noticed that SR-4756 showed 9.3 as a max charge at 11,000+ CUP, which is the highest load density I have found. I tried Trail Boss and usually have good luck with it but, not this time!!! It was just bad. I have a surfeit of SR-4756. Yesterday I loaded 9 grs. under the Lee 200 gr. bullet and it appears everything came together! 2 1/2 inches at 25 yards with a nice report and recoil feels more like it should. AND, I worked over the front and rear sights some more and it now shoots to POA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharps4590 View Post
    I think I have found THE LOAD!!

    Most of the loads I tried all seemed to be a at least a little sensitive to powder position. I looked around the Hodgon web site and noticed that SR-4756 showed 9.3 as a max charge at 11,000+ CUP, which is the highest load density I have found. I tried Trail Boss and usually have good luck with it but, not this time!!! It was just bad. I have a surfeit of SR-4756. Yesterday I loaded 9 grs. under the Lee 200 gr. bullet and it appears everything came together! 2 1/2 inches at 25 yards with a nice report and recoil feels more like it should. AND, I worked over the front and rear sights some more and it now shoots to POA.
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    1100-1150 FPS out of a Cimarron Model P 4 3/4" barrel for a 200 gr Hornady XTP with IMR 4227. WOW!

    I certainly would not want to try those loads in my Navy Arms (Uberti) "Wells Fargo" Schofield in 44-40. I am just not that adventurous.

    I do intend to find a load for that revolver with a 215 grain Lee mold using IMR 4198.

    Thanks for the photo

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkbug View Post
    1100-1150 FPS out of a Cimarron Model P 4 3/4" barrel for a 200 gr Hornady XTP with IMR 4227. WOW!

    I certainly would not want to try those loads in my Navy Arms (Uberti) "Wells Fargo" Schofield in 44-40. I am just not that adventurous.

    I do intend to find a load for that revolver with a 215 grain Lee mold using IMR 4198.

    Thanks for the photo
    Read the top of that page where it says NOTE in big red bold letters. Although some is blocked, it says NOT to be fired in the Cimarron Model P

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    The 800 pound gorilla in the room is, why would anyone need to “hot rod” loads in a 19th century design? Just enjoy the gun for what it is, and buy a Ruger if you want to shoot atomic class loads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scattershot View Post
    The 800 pound gorilla in the room is, why would anyone need to “hot rod” loads in a 19th century design? Just enjoy the gun for what it is, and buy a Ruger if you want to shoot atomic class loads.
    The reply was for the 4756 data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scattershot View Post
    The 800 pound gorilla in the room is, why would anyone need to “hot rod” loads in a 19th century design? Just enjoy the gun for what it is, and buy a Ruger if you want to shoot atomic class loads.
    The reply was for the 4756 data for the OP...do with it what ya want.

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    Huh? The 4756 load by pressure from Hodgon was entirely safe. Jack, were you just posting the cowboy load data for my benefit? If so, thanks!

    Junk, scatter, were you guys commenting on the jacketed bullet data? As for hot rodding my Schofield, that was never in the cards. All I was EVER looking for was an accurate, BP equivalent load or, a little less, with smokeless. Seems to me that SR-4756 accomplished my goal. Accurate and low pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharps4590 View Post
    Huh? The 4756 load by pressure from Hodgon was entirely safe. Jack, were you just posting the cowboy load data for my benefit? If so, thanks!
    Yes, I noticed it was in the Hornady 10th edition 1st print 2016.

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    Thank you sir, I appreciate it. Can never have too much info.

    BTW, if I ever want to hot rod something, which I did when I lived in grizzly country, I have a Mosel 97 Freedom Arms in 45 Colt. I'll take it over any Ruger, every day. Here where there isn't any grizzer bear I load it with the RCBS, KTSWC to 1,000 fps. Does anything I need done.
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
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